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German South-West Africa

Post by K.Kocjancic » 14 Nov 2003 00:58

In year 1904 Heraros started an uprising against Germans and killed abot 150 of them.

German expedition army under command of Gen. Lothar von Trotha was sent. German army won at battle at Waterberg and then pushed Heraros into waterless desert.

On 2.10.1904 von Trotha issued an Proclamation, in which he stated that there is no surrender for Heraros (they can't surrender to Germans; they were KIA).

On 13.1.1905 first KZ were opened.


My questions:
1.) German army was about 50.000 men strong. What was the OoB?

2.) How many casulties German had during "war"?

3.) Where there any important Germans in that 150 killed in uprising?

4.) How many KZ were opened?

5.) I read that Germany killed (or died because of them - starvation) 147.000 of 150.000 Heraros. Is this true?

6.) Where there any new weapons involved?

7.) What were Heraros armed with?

TIA;
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Post by Windward » 14 Nov 2003 08:01

Kocjo wrote:My questions:
1.) German army was about 50.000 men strong. What was the OoB?

2.) How many casulties German had during "war"?

3.) Where there any important Germans in that 150 killed in uprising?

4.) How many KZ were opened?

5.) I read that Germany killed (or died because of them - starvation) 147.000 of 150.000 Heraros. Is this true?

6.) Where there any new weapons involved?

7.) What were Heraros armed with?

TIA;
Kocjo
Governor Leutwein wrote in his book Elf Jahr Gouverneur in Deutsch-Sudwestafrika (Berlin 1907) that the war cost Germany tens of millions of Marks, and lost many thousand soldiers. Sadly it's only a roughly describe. He also mentioned that two thirds of the Heraros labour resource were destroyed. There were around 80,000 people in Heraros, and only 15,000 after the war. General Staff of Germany said 14,769 surrendered, 4,137 men among them.

German use Maxim and Krupp QF guns in the war. Heraros had 7,000 soldiers, but only 1/3 of them have old rifles. Other people fought with lance.

Many German women and children were killed in uprising, though chief Maharero had ordered to protect them. Britisher, Boer and missionaries were protected by Heraros chief.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 14 Nov 2003 09:18

Thanks!

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Post by nondescript handle » 15 Nov 2003 06:34

Kocjo wrote:[...]
1.) German army was about 50.000 men strong. What was the OoB?
Order of Battle 1904

-Hauptquartier
--Signalabteilung
--Funktelegraphen-Ateilung
--Feldintendantur

-Feldregiment I
--I.Batl
--II.Batl
--Maschinengewehr-Abteilung I
--Maschinengewehr-Abteilung II

-Feldregiment II
--I.Batl
--II.Batl
--III.Batl

-I.Feldartillerie-Abteilung
--2.Batt
--1.Batt
--3.Batt
--4.Batt

-II.Feldartillerie-Abteilung
--5.Batt
--6.Batt
--7.Batt
--8.Batt

-Etappen-Kommando
--Artillerie-Depot
--Eisenbahn-Detachment
--Kolonnen-Abteilung
---1.Kol
---2.Kol
---3.Kol
---4.Kol
--Pferde-Depot
--Bekleidungs-und Ausrüstungs-Depot

-Marine-Infanterie-Bataillon
--1.Komp
--2.Komp
--3.Komp
--4.Komp

-Maschinen-Kanonen-Abteilung

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Tactical oder for the 1904 Heraros uprise

-Westabteilung (target: Omaruru) -Major v. Estorff
two field companies
one marine company
several guns

-Hauptabteilung (target: main enemy forces) -Gouverneur Leutwein
three field companies
one marine company
two QF guns
one field battary


-Ostabteilung (target: Gobabis) -Major v. Glasenapp
two field companies
two marine companies
several guns
Kocjo wrote:4.) How many KZ were opened?
There were five camps (Windhuk, Karibib, Omaruru, Swapkomund, and Lüderitzbucht). 7000 died there from the consequences of the starvation in the desert.

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Mark

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 15 Nov 2003 09:16

Thanks a lot!

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Post by Dan » 15 Nov 2003 14:32

Venerial disease was the biggest cause of death, then KIA, then drowning (in the Orange river during pursuit)

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Post by David C. Clarke » 23 Nov 2003 19:33

Venerial disease was the biggest cause of death, then KIA, then drowning (in the Orange river during pursuit)
HUH? Care to cite a source for that Dan?

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Re: German South-West Africa

Post by Walter123 » 02 May 2021 21:20

Hello ist there any data as to who served in the Schutztruppe in DSWA?

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