German Colonial Officers 1914

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Gregorus » 04 Jan 2009 17:19

Chris Dale wrote:Hello Gregorus,

Welcome to the Forum and thanks for that question. I didn't know Carl was von Klewitz's first name, so thank you for that.

All the information I have on these two is that they were regular army officers on secondment to New Guinea. Mayer was from the Königliches Bayerisches Schweres Reiter Regt. Franz Ferdinand von Österreich-Este Nr.2. and replaced Oberleutnant Prey sometime in 1914. Prey was from the 3. Posensches Infanterie-Regt. Nr.58 and had been in New Guinea since 1911 (although Baumann lists this as 1906- does anyone know the correct date?). Von Klewitz was also sent out in 1914, he was from the Dragoner-Regt. Königin Olga (1. Württembergisches) Nr.25. This information was supplied to me by Bruce Swanton, another of our members.

Does anyone else know any more about these men, or have a photo of any of them?

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Hello Chris,

Thank you very much for your information. All that about them I know is, in principle here:

http://www.traditionsverband.de/downloa ... truppe.pdf

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cata ... 2008-08-08

Unfortunately, still has not found any of their photos ...

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Gregorus » 04 Jan 2009 18:12

Hello,

Chris can you know something about other officers from Deutsch-Neuguinea for example Hauptmann d.R. Wuchert, Leutnant d.R. Fiebig, Leutnant d.R. Blumenthal, Lieutenant Kempf, Unteroffizier Ritter?

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Gregorus » 05 Jan 2009 19:32

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"HOLSWORTHY INTERNMENT CAMP, NSW, C.1916. PORTRAIT OF COLONEL ROBERT SANDS (CENTRE) AND TWO PERMANENT GERMAN OFFICERS CAPTURED IN NEW GUINEA, CAPTAIN VON KLEVITZ AND LIEUTENANT MEYER. (ORIGINAL ALBUM HELD IN AWM ARCHIVE STORE)."


Carl von Klewitz was born on 12.08.1881
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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Chris Dale » 05 Jan 2009 22:13

Thanks for posting the photo, it's just a shame they're not in uniform.
I don't know anything about the other officers you mentioned except that they were reserve officers, that is they were civillians living in New Guinea called up as officers in Wartime.
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Post by Peter H » 07 Jan 2009 01:23

Adolfo de Moncada wrote:
Peter H wrote:Botha accepts the German surrender in Sudwestafrika....from The History of the Great European War,1915


Great photo !!

Have anyone some photos of the Lettow-Vorbeck surrender ??

Thank you all in advance :wink:


From the Bundesarchiv.Not the surrender but LV about to head off home.

"Daressalam.- Paul Emil von Lettow-Vorbeck mit englischen Offizieren"
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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by vonb@pt.lu » 18 Apr 2009 09:51

My great-Uncle Robert von Blumenthal, known in New Guinea as "Lord Bob," was the senior officer after von Dewitz among the prisoners of war who were taken to Camp Berrima by the Australians. There is an interesting book on this prison camp called "Prisoners in Arcadia" which contains photos of many of the prisoners including von Dewitz, von Blumenthal and others.

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Bundesarchiv Lettow photo above

Post by Chris Dale » 01 Nov 2009 00:55

Peter H wrote: From the Bundesarchiv.Not the surrender but LV about to head off home.

"Daressalam.- Paul Emil von Lettow-Vorbeck mit englischen Offizieren"
Tip and Run by Edward Paice identifies the officer on the right of that photo as Major Kraut.

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Chris Dale » 31 Dec 2009 02:32

Gregorus wrote:Hello dear members!

Do you know something about Rittmeister Carl von Klewitz (Deutsch-Neuguinea)?
Not sure if I posted back on this but yes, I found more on him-

Carl Albert Gustav Klewitz (1881-1945) first joined the 25th Württemberg Dragoons (Dragonerregiment "Königin Olga" (1. Württ.) Nr. 25) as a brevet Fähnrich in 1898 and had been promoted to Leutnant by 1900. He transferred to the South West African Schutztruppe in 1904 where he saw action during the Herero Rebellion. In 1905 he was awarded both the Prussian Order of the Crown, 4th Class with Swords and the Württemberg Military Service Order (along with the title "von") for service in South West Africa. In 1906 he returned to the 25th Württemberg Dragoons, back to the South West African Schutztruppe in 1907 and back again to the Dragoons in 1912 having been promoted to Oberleutnant in 1910. In 1913 he was seconded to the Colonial Office and in January 1914 sent to command the German New Guinea Polizeitruppe, again being promoted- this time to Rittmeister. He arrived in March and began training local troops. Within months of his arrival, the First World War broke out and von Klewitz organised the brief German resistance at Bita-Paka in September 1914. In the days following the skirmish with Australian naval troops he negotiated a surrender for his troops along with Governor Hahl. Von Klewitz spent the rest of the war at Berrima Prisoner of War Camp in Australia, returning to Germany in 1919 and marrying Ilse Schmidt the following year. Between the wars he held the brevet rank of Major in the army reserve and worked in financial offices in Dresden. As a reserve officer during the Second World War he served on the army staff in Poland and France, retiring as an Oberstleutnant in 1941.

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Tanzania » 08 Jun 2010 10:24

Three well known officers from the Schutztruppe DOA

Oberleutnant Karl Göring
Since 10.11.1910 Schutztruppe DOA
Heavy wounded into British imprisonment 6.9.1918 at Lioma / POA
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Leutnant zur See Richard Wenig
Since 1.4.1910 Imperial German Navy / Artillery officer on the”Königsberg”
Artillery officer at the Schutztruppe up to the Armistice at 14.11.1918 at Chambeshi / BNR
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Leutnant Heinrich Naumann
Since 26.10.1912 Schutztruppe DOA
Surrender at the 2.10.1917 at the Loita Mountain / DOA
(Follower of Hauptmann Max Wintgens / detachment Wintgens)
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Holger Kotthaus
“Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. . . . All History was a
palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary” – G. ORWELL 1984

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Chris Dale » 08 Jun 2010 10:59

Hi Holger,

Thanks for posting those great photos, it's so good when they can be accuratly identified like you've done.

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by basenji » 07 Jul 2010 08:04

Hi,
I have found a lot of interesting information about German colonial troops.
Have you ever found any trace of Eberchard Schoepffer, who served in German South-West Africa between 1909 and 1919? He had a rank of Hauptmann and later major of Schutztuppe.
Later, he took important role in the fights for Elbing and Hela in 1945.
Anyone can help?
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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Chris Dale » 11 Jul 2010 23:30

Hi Zdrowko,

Thanks for your post, I've looked in the Schutztruppe rank lists for May 1914 and yes, here's there as an Oberleutnant. I think you've put an extra "C" in his first name, isn't it Eberhard? That might help in Google searches, also try searching with an umlaut over the "O" as in "Eberhard Schöpffer". I did a quick search on him and it seems there's quite a bit of information on his WW2 activities.

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by basenji » 13 Jul 2010 08:08

Yes, you are right. that is my spelling mistake.
His name was Eberhard Schoepffer ( Schöpffer)
Here is his picture from the 1940-s
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He sems to be quite misterious (lack of data) even if he was a talented officer.
Perhaps you have more info about oberleutnant Schoepffer and even pictures?
Why was he called " major with character"?
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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by Tanzania » 07 Aug 2010 07:55

I bought an older book about the Schutztruppe in Cameroon.
Maybes somebody knows that the illustrated person is the author, too?

Leutnant Carl W. Koch (The Orginalfoto comes from DSWA)
Founder of the station Molundu at the Congo River

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Re: German Colonial Officers 1914

Post by basenji » 07 Aug 2010 12:19

Can you insert more pictures?
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