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Italian Invasion of France,1940
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Re: Italian Invasion of France,1940
Thanks David. I was trying to find a polite way to say "liar liar pants on fire", and then utilize the Lincoln-Douglas format of debating to contest the point, but your revelation explains a lot.
I guess we will all just have to be aware that the next time we see a post describing something like a lone French farmer armed with nothing but a croissant defeat 1300 Italian soldiers that the source might be questionable. 


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I thought his post was the script for the movie Obelix in Greece the new Asterix vrs the Romans serial...
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Re: Italian Invasion of France,1940
Hello to all
; a complement..................
Cheers. Raúl M
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Source: https://militaria1940.forumactif.com/t1 ... -juin-1940but in the end the Italians set foot on French soil......but which was the real gain or booty for Italy after the armistice?.
Cheers. Raúl M

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Re: Italian Invasion of France,1940
Hi Tigre,
That map is only of value for 1940 if one superimposes the Alps and the French Maginot-type fortifications on it. The entire border was fortified high mountains, except at Menton on the coast, which the Italians captured just before the ceasefire, too late to exploit.
On the good side, it does show the 1940-42 Italian occupation zone, which I seem to remember ran 50 kilometres inside the pre-war French border.
Cheers,
Sid.
That map is only of value for 1940 if one superimposes the Alps and the French Maginot-type fortifications on it. The entire border was fortified high mountains, except at Menton on the coast, which the Italians captured just before the ceasefire, too late to exploit.
On the good side, it does show the 1940-42 Italian occupation zone, which I seem to remember ran 50 kilometres inside the pre-war French border.
Cheers,
Sid.
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Re: Italian Invasion of France,1940
such map concerns only the department of Maritimes Alps (Capital Nice/Nizza) not the whole French-Italian border from Savoy to Mediterranean sea
https://books.openedition.org/pur/130161

the hoped territorial conquest and occupation was even larger than the greater Italian zone of occupation of november 1942-september 1943 :
the goal was to include not only the southeastern depts between Rhône and Alps but also to reach and occupy all the French Mediterranean coast until the Spanish border for the south, and for the northeast to extend it until ~Dijon with the Saône river as limit
Regards
Loïc
https://books.openedition.org/pur/130161

the hoped territorial conquest and occupation was even larger than the greater Italian zone of occupation of november 1942-september 1943 :
the goal was to include not only the southeastern depts between Rhône and Alps but also to reach and occupy all the French Mediterranean coast until the Spanish border for the south, and for the northeast to extend it until ~Dijon with the Saône river as limit
Regards
Loïc
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Re: Italian Invasion of France,1940
Hello to all
; Sid and Loïc, thank you both for the clarifications
. Cheers. Raúl M
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