Italian POW - 1942-1943

Alex Yeliseenko · Post by **Alex Yeliseenko** » 28 Nov 2006 15:51

Hello friends!

I think this photo it will be interesting to a forum member...

Best Regards.

Alex. Winter Bearland.

Lupo Solitario · Post by **Lupo Solitario** » 28 Nov 2006 15:55

really interesting ones. Thanks
Do you know if the semovente is still existing?

(PS apart any consideration on evident propaganda pics, the caption in the third is wrong cause the XIII was not an artillery unit)

Spirow Ewes · Post by **Spirow Ewes** » 29 Nov 2006 16:38

I couldn't quite understand the caption of the second pic. Can you explain it to me? The Generals are in soviet captivity or in italian headquarters?

Check if I got the General's correct names:

Etevaldo Pascolini
Emilio Batisti
Umberto Riccardo

Lupo Solitario · Post by **Lupo Solitario** » 29 Nov 2006 16:55

sigh, for the caption they should be...in soviet captivity! (do you understand why I speak about propaganda pics?)

their correct names were:
Etelvoldo Pascolini
Emilio Battisti
Umberto Ricagno

Spirow Ewes · Post by **Spirow Ewes** » 29 Nov 2006 17:08

Thanks Lupo!

Still, I can't understand this sentence:

"The Italian Generals voluntarily surrended to the 8th Italian Army soldiers to give themselves up."

??? I don't get it....

Lupo Solitario · Post by **Lupo Solitario** » 29 Nov 2006 17:23

well, it seems that for soviet propaganda italian generals not only had surrended on thier own will but also signed an appeal to ask other soldiers to surrender....propaganda

IIRC, the three generals had been captured at Waluiki january 27, 1943 after the definitive failure of efforts to break the soviet pocket. They were freed in 1950 for their constant refusal to cohoperate...

zaptiè · Post by **zaptiè** » 30 Nov 2006 17:29

the last 18 where relased imn 1956 ; not only generals but also normal officiers , incluse some chaplains

Alex Yeliseenko · Post by **Alex Yeliseenko** » 01 Dec 2006 17:06

Lupo Solitario wrote:really interesting ones. Thanks
Do you know if the semovente is still existing?

(PS apart any consideration on evident propaganda pics, the caption in the third is wrong cause the XIII was not an artillery unit)

These pictures can be characterized by propaganda. Soldiers same "happy", as well as the Soviet soldiers in German to a captivity in German propaganda-photo.

Why you consider, what it Semoventi arrives not from XIII Gruppo? This photo is made in Moscow by summer of 1943. Italy had Semoventi in the USSR in other units?

Best Regards.

Alex. Winter Bearland.

Lupo Solitario · Post by **Lupo Solitario** » 01 Dec 2006 18:38

Alex Yeliseenko wrote:
Lupo Solitario wrote:really interesting ones. Thanks
Do you know if the semovente is still existing?

(PS apart any consideration on evident propaganda pics, the caption in the third is wrong cause the XIII was not an artillery unit)
These pictures can be characterized by propaganda. Soldiers same "happy", as well as the Soviet soldiers in German to a captivity in German propaganda-photo.

Why you consider, what it Semoventi arrives not from XIII Gruppo? This photo is made in Moscow by summer of 1943. Italy had Semoventi in the USSR in other units?

Best Regards.

Alex. Winter Bearland.

No, my point was that XIII was not an ARTILLERY but a CAVALRY unit...that's all!

Alex Yeliseenko · Post by **Alex Yeliseenko** » 02 Jan 2007 13:27

New photo (m-a 1942)