Italian Half Tracks

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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 16 Dec 2010 10:57

The Italians could barely produce the vehicles that they needed for their planned use in the desert, it is asking a bit much for them to also have a vehicle ready for an unplanned foray into Russia !
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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by fredl109 » 17 Dec 2010 16:27

To illustrate your post here some pictures of Italian Halftrack used in operation or planning stage.
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Fiat 800[1].jpg
Here a prototype of Fiat 800
Bianchi Melodianum[1].jpg
Here a Bianchi Melodianum.
Dovunque 35[1].jpg
A Dovunque 35 in exercise. (Nicolas Pignato)
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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by fredl109 » 17 Dec 2010 16:34

Following this series.
spa_do11[1].jpg
The rear especially Dovunque 35.
fiat_611[1].jpg
Here a Fiat 611 used in Libya.
Semicingolato Fiat 727[1].jpg
And finally the Fiat 727 Semicingolato developed in colaboration with the company Krauss Maffei but remained only a prototype.
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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by Spontoon » 09 Jan 2011 07:20

I think the question of then utility of half tracks is answered by looking at how many of them are in service nowadays. The Italians had been fighting in Libya since 1912 nad had developped plenty of experience with trucks in the desert.

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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by Pedro-M » 27 May 2022 10:50

Hello Sirs :) :
I have seen a photo in a Spanish Enciclopedia about the Second World War in which in a chapter of the Desert War in North Africa appears a light Italian halftrack very seemed to the Polish halftrack C4P built in Poland by Fiat-Polish industry,sadly the picture is in a pdf document and I don´t know how to can "copy-paste" this picture for to can put it here in the chat.
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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by Sheldrake » 27 May 2022 22:01

Before WW2 the British looked at fully tracked, half tracked and wheeled vehicles, including the Citroen-Kigress Kigresshttps://nationalmotormuseum.org.uk/vehicle-collection/citroen-kegresse/ half tracks and fully tracked light and medium "Dragons." The Brits were not averse to fully tracked light vehicles as they built about 100,000 Bren/Universal carriers and made use of Lease Lend wheeled (white scout car) and half tracked M5 and 3/4 t AFVs. They settled on wheeled gun tractors and troop carrying vehicles, largely for economic reasons. Four wheel drive vehicles with balloon tyres were pretty good under desert conditions.

I don't think Italy had the money or the access to industrial capacity to play around with half tracks.

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Re: Italian Half Tracks

Post by Pedro-M » 05 Jun 2022 12:32

In the final of 1930s decade Poland built in hers factory of Fiat a version half track of italian lorry Fiat 621,is possible that this version of half track also had could to be built in Italy (some units only and these were sent to Lybia ?).

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