Big Italian offensive in Slovenia July-November 1942

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Re: Big Italian offensive in Slovenia July-November 1942

Post by Dili » 13 Aug 2018 10:58

Italian divisions had not such number of troops. That has to include attached units.

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Re: Big Italian offensive in Slovenia July-November 1942

Post by mfy4444 » 13 Aug 2018 21:37

I don't think the entire Granatieri di Sardegna division was ever deployed overseas. Just its 3rd Infantry Regiment, which had also been a spearhead for the invasion of Greece, before fighting extensively in the former Yugoslavia. Being that the Granatieri were considered the Royal Guard, I believe their 1st Infantry Regiment and most of the divisional support units (artillery, during the Sept '43 brief defense of Rome their 81mm mortar battalion was also involved) remained in or around Rome throughout the war.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

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Re: Big Italian offensive in Slovenia July-November 1942

Post by SloveneLiberal » 14 Aug 2018 12:00

It was like this. In April 1941 it was decided in Rome that divison Granatieri di Sardegna will come to Slovenia and replace divison Re which went to Croatia. At that time general Taddeo Orlando was the commander of the divison. In Slovenia he is well known because of his support for establishement of MVAC in summer 1942 or White Guard as it was called by partisans. The headquaters of divison was stationed in Ljubljana. After some movements in June 1941 the situation was like this. 1. regiment with three battalions of the divison Granatieri di Sardegna was in Ljubljana, second regiment was in Kočevje. Two battalions were in Kočevje and one in Ribnica. The artillery regiment was also in Ljubljana. They had units also in Dobrova and Horjul (black shirts ), mortars battalion in Ig and some smaller units in Grosuplje ( one battalion of balck shirts which was also under the command of Orlando at that time ), Velike Lašč and so on. Of all divisions in Slovenia Granatieri di Sardegna had at that time the biggest number of military posts under its command. That is 30 posts.

So Italian divison Granatieri di Sardegna had at that time two Infantry Regiments ( each three battalions ), artillery regiment, legion of black shirts, one battalion of mortars and some smaller units. All of those units were stationed in Slovenia.

Hope the information was useful. :)

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Re: Big Italian offensive in Slovenia July-November 1942

Post by Dili » 15 Aug 2018 15:54

Mike, the 3rd Infantry Rgt of Granatieri was not anymore part of division after the TOE reorganization before war that made all infantry divisions 2 Regiments only.

Like SloveneLiberal says it had only 2 regiments and went to Yugoslavia.

An Italian infantry/mountain(not Alpini) division had roughly 13000 including the Blackshirt legion.
http://xoomer.alice.it/ramius/Militaria ... _1940.html

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