Italian Air Droped Torpedos

[Dili]

Yes

[Brady]

Yes

Ok, so correct me if I am wrong:

Aug, Fifty W. 170/450 x 5,46., are taken on Hand by the RA from the German order of 300

Between Aug and Dec, 35 are used in action

Production was at least as many as what was used:

1940-35(2ºhalf year) {assuming these first 35 were from the order of 50}, 1941:56+124 (1 h.y.+2 h.y.) 1942(174+194),

Of course these may of been transferred from the RM in some part ?

Given there were Three factory's making them however it would seam they must of taken more on hand that what's shown being used ?

[Dili]

The order for 50 be taken over was in November 1939 more or less when Pricolo replaced Valle at head of Regia Aeronautica but only are available in July 40 when RSA Reparto Speciale Aerosuliranti is created with 4 S.79. For a while this is the only unit attacking Royal Navy, they had Whitehead torpedoes - at least i infer that because that was the technicians company that went with the unit to Africa.

The RM sent 131 MAS torpedoes to RA, first 36 arrived by the end of January 1941. In 1941 Fiume only is said to produce 650 aerial torpedoes (i find these numbers too on the high side).

[Dili]

Btw you still have to think about the circular torpedoes: Motobomba.

[Brady]

The order for 50 be taken over was in November 1939 more or less when Pricolo replaced Valle at head of Regia Aeronautica but only are available in July 40 when RSA Reparto Speciale Aerosuliranti is created with 4 S.79. For a while this is the only unit attacking Royal Navy, they had Whitehead torpedoes - at least i infer that because that was the technicians company that went with the unit to Africa.

The RM sent 131 MAS torpedoes to RA, first 36 arrived by the end of January 1941. In 1941 Fiume only is said to produce 650 aerial torpedoes (i find these numbers too on the high side).

Ok so we know (sort of) that Whitehead Fiume/Motofides Livorno produced the 650 in 41

But we don't know what Silurifico Italiano produced … during the same time frame (or any other ?)?

So, assuming the 650 is correct and the 131 is correct were looking at 781 taken on hand from these two sources in 41 alone ?

[Brady]

Btw you still have to think about the circular torpedoes: Motobomba.

Were going in Circles now

Yes, that's a good point, were assuming the numbers above are not including there production right ?

[Dili]

Yeah if those numbers are correct. The 131 is from RM, but i don't know if from RM orders or from RM directly.

I don't think motobomba is in torpedo statistics.

[Brady]

Moto Bomba, any references for its production numbers ?

Numbers employed ?

50 cm (19.7") W 120/500 x 2.6



Apparently only the FF- 500 was produced and Fielded ?



"This torpedo was also used by the Germans and designated "LT350" type"

Soupsidely they were used during the : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raid_on_Bari

[DrG]

According to Giuseppe Pesce, "La motobomba FFF", Storia Militare n. 159, about 500 motobombe were produced for the Regia Aeronautica during the War, but only a few were used operationally by this Armed Force (in 1978 the author of the article had found 330 motobombe in the base of Stagnoni, near Marsala in Sicily, and 100 in Serrenti, province of Cagliari, Sardinia). For a summary of its operational use, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motobomba.
The Luftwaffe had ordered 2,000 motobombe, the number actually delivered is not known. German manual: http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv ... ft%20b.pdf

The full name of this weapon was Mb.FF (120-500-360), meaning:
- Mb. = motobomba;
- FF = the initials of the inventors, col. pilot Prospero Freri and engineer of the Air Force col. Amedeo Fiore (the name of the third "F", the designer capt. Filpa, was dropped);
- 120 = weight of the warhead in kg;
- 500 = diameter in mm;
- 360 = total weight in kg.

[Scholes]

According to Giuseppe Pesce, "La motobomba FFF", Storia Militare n. 159, about 500 motobombe were produced for the Regia Aeronautica during the War, but only a few were used operationally by this Armed Force (in 1978 the author of the article had found 330 motobombe in the base of Stagnoni, near Marsala in Sicily, and 100 in Serrenti, province of Cagliari, Sardinia). For a summary of its operational use, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motobomba.
The Luftwaffe had ordered 2,000 motobombe, the casino mobile is not known. German manual: http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv ... ft%20b.pdf

The full name of this weapon was Mb.FF (120-500-360), meaning:
- Mb. = motobomba;
- FF = the initials of the inventors, col. pilot Prospero Freri and engineer of the Air Force col. Amedeo Fiore (the name of the third "F", the designer capt. Filpa, was dropped);
- 120 = weight of the warhead in kg;
- 500 = diameter in mm;
- 360 = total weight in kg.

Thanks for the clarification!