German Forces in Italy 1943-45

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German Forces in Italy 1943-45

Post by Ubique » 08 Jan 2003 17:29

I am currently researching the role of British and Commonwealth troops in the Italian Campaign 1943-45.

I would like to pursue the sources of the German units serving opposite them; can anyone point me to any good sources: unit histories, first hand accouts, websites etc?

Did the German Army produce and use its own maps for this theatre? If so, any sources to get copies?

I am particularly interested in the fighting on the Gothic Line.

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oob

Post by Christoph Awender » 08 Jan 2003 19:42

Hello!

When I am at home I can give you some OOB´s of certain dates for Italy. Let me know if you are interested in a certain timeframe.

Of course the OKH and OKW produced their own maps which are available at the Bundesachiv/Militärarchiv.

Click here for map of Dislokation Ob.Süd 7.Sept.1943

\Christoph

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Orbats

Post by Ubique » 09 Jan 2003 13:10

Thanks for that.

An ORBAT for the forces on the Gothic Line in September 1944 would be a good starting point.

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Post by Benoit Douville » 11 Jan 2003 04:17

That's an interesting battle to study. The topography of North-Central Italy had provided Kesselring's German Armies a 200 miles natural barrier on wich to develop strong defensive position.

On september 1944, The British 1st Infantry division broke through the Gothic Line and on september 17 the Gothic Line began to crack and the Germans started falling back to the next ridge.

Here is two website Sources about the Gothic Line Battle:


http://www.gothiclinetours.com/birthofafortress.htm

http://spazioinwind.libero.it/gothiclin ... /index.htm

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Don't Forget the Italians

Post by Leonardo » 18 Jan 2003 04:20

Ubique
In your research, you should include the Italian units of the RSI that continued to fight alongside the Germans after the Armistice. Most of their time was spent fighting their countrymen (partisans), but several units went into action against the allies.

Leonardo

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Post by Andy H » 18 Jan 2003 18:10

I have an OoB dated 16/09/44 which I'll post later.

:D Andy from the Shire

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Post by Andy H » 18 Jan 2003 21:37

14th Armee

XIVPz Korps: 16 RFSS PzGren, 42Jager & 65 Infantry Divisions
1 Fallsch Korps: 4th Fallsch, 334th & 362nd Infantry Divisions

10th Armee

LI Mtn Korps: 114 Jager, 44th,305th & 715th Infantry Divisions
LXXVI Pz Korps: 71,98,278 & 356 Infantry Divisions, 26 Panzer, 29 PzGren, 20LW Feld & 1 Fallsch Divisions

:D Andy from the Shire

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Post by Lupo Solitario » 19 Jan 2003 22:25

Andy do you know which units were employed on battlefront and which securing rears against partisans at given date?

thanks
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Post by Andy H » 21 Jan 2003 00:48

Hi Lupo

the same list gives Armee Ligurian (LXXXVIIIKorps) as having in reserve the 34 Infantry Division ( Which was on the French-Italian border in Oct'44), 3 Brandenburg Regt & Italian SS Brig.
the following wer under it's direct control:
LXXV Korps: 5Gebirgs plus 148&157Reserve Divisions plus elements of 34 Infantry Division.
Korps Gruppe Sieb(?): 3 Italian Division
Korps Lombardia: 4 Italian Gebirgs & 232 Infantry Division ( Which orginally was stationed in Genoa but was commited to front line action in Oct'44)
Also the following units were operting on the Adriatic coast: 90Panzergrenadier Division, 94 & 237 Infantry Divisions plus 188th Reserve Gebirgs Division.

:D Andy from the Shire

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German OOBs Italy

Post by Ubique » 25 Jan 2003 19:23

Many thanks for that information.

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