What was left of Wehrmacht?

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What was left of Wehrmacht?

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Post by Madsen » 10 Apr 2003, 23:49

When WWII ended. what was left of the Wehrmacht? i know there wre about 400000 in Norway but i wonder how many there were left in other areas?

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Post by Bjørn from Norway » 11 Apr 2003, 19:02

Hello!
I do not have the numbers, but it was amazingly high!

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Post by ZackdeBlanc » 11 Apr 2003, 22:08

Well, there were approximatelty 18,000,000 people who served in the wehrmacht (all branches) during World War 2. There were a total of around 10,000,000 casualties (3,000,000 dead, 2,800,000 missing and 5,000,000 wounded).

So... If you count the wounded then the Wehrmacht probably had about 12,500,000 people in service at the end of the war.


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Post by daveh » 12 Apr 2003, 13:39

Numbers at wars end: I have not seen a detailed breakdown of German Army strength at the end of the war. I have seen the figure of 1.8 million quoted for german troops on the eastern front in may 1945 in 164 divisions. There are certainly OOBS for eg Army Group South East dating from may 1945 and other eastern front army groups from april 1945
Lucas in the German army handbook 1939-45 gives the german army OOB for april 12 1945 which gives an indication of numbers.

For the western front I have seen 700, 000 troops quoted as the german army strength after the clearance of forces from the west of the R. Rhine.
Army Group B surrendered 325,00 troops in the Ruhr by 18th of april, and "1.65 million pow s taken by the Allies" in April 1945.

The German army surrender in Italt and Austria at the start of may yielded "1 million troops".

I know these are scattered an inexact numbers but i hope they give an indication og the size of the german army at wars end

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Post by FW » 13 Apr 2003, 20:53

numbers aren't what is really important. Their might have been a couple million but a good deal were young boys and old men not capable of putting up much resistance.

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Post by Qvist » 14 Apr 2003, 14:47

ZackdeBlanc wrote:
Well, there were approximatelty 18,000,000 people who served in the wehrmacht (all branches) during World War 2. There were a total of around 10,000,000 casualties (3,000,000 dead, 2,800,000 missing and 5,000,000 wounded).

So... If you count the wounded then the Wehrmacht probably had about 12,500,000 people in service at the end of the war.
Hmm... I don't have any sure numbers either, but that certainly cannot be correct. For one, a fair part of those wounded would no longer be in uniform when the war ended. Many would be dead (though I am not sure if those would be included in your dead figures), others discharged from service due to the nature or gravity of their wounds. Many others would also have been discharged during the course of the war for reasons of health, age, industrial utility and other things.

Another thing, where do those overall casualties come from? those figures are not known to me.

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Post by Madsen » 15 Apr 2003, 14:58

what i was thinking of was compared to allied side. if you reorganized all the combatant german forces how big formation would you get. in Armygroups and divisions.
3 infantry battalions and 1 battery of fieldart + support could reorg into one inf brig.
more like this i was thinking of

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Post by Gott » 15 Apr 2003, 15:24

Not to mention all the equipments that were left from the war...

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Post by Madsen » 15 Apr 2003, 15:40

you could rais a large force of all equipment left by the germans. Norway took over allot of eq and weapons after the germans. if all german soldiers was put together and trained properly they would bee an enormous army

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Disbandment of Wehrmacht a gift to russian imperialism

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Post by wildboar » 15 Apr 2003, 17:38

LILLEBROR wrote:you could rais a large force of all equipment left by the germans. Norway took over allot of eq and weapons after the germans. if all german soldiers was put together and trained properly they would bee an enormous army
The greatest mistake commited by western allies was of dissolution of wehrmacht which helped russian imperialist to keep all the eastern europe under there boot for half century.

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Post by Madsen » 15 Apr 2003, 18:42

Sorry but i dont understand?

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Post by Gott » 15 Apr 2003, 19:22

LILLEBROR wrote:Sorry but i dont understand?
I understood what wildboar said.

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Post by Madsen » 21 Apr 2003, 21:11

sorry again but i can't see your point. am i stupid or? :oops:

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Post by Panzermahn » 24 Apr 2003, 15:48

The greatest mistake commited by western allies was of dissolution of wehrmacht which helped russian imperialist to keep all the eastern europe under there boot for half century.

True....to the sense that Allies won the WW2 for moral sense..but they lostout politically and this cause lives to be lost under the altar of the savage, monstrously godless russian bolshevism

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Post by Timo » 24 Apr 2003, 19:45

panzermahn wrote:monstrously godless russian bolshevism
This was the last time. From now on I will delete all messages you post when they include your continues rants against the russians.
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