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If one does not make taking Stalingrad a dogma , then a better winter position could have been chosen chosen further back. Logistical situation would have been better there too. Much less expenditure of ammo on taking Stalingrad also allows better preparation for winter.mezsat2 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023 03:03All this said, Stalingrad could have fallen to Wehrmacht forces with tolerable losses in August 1942 were it suddenly attacked in force.
The overall strategic question is whether or not Germany could defend the Don from Voronezh to the bend in winter, and also fortify
the Don/Volga land bridge in sufficient strength. Stalin may have blown right through these defenses in Jan. Feb. 1943 straight to
Rostov and cut off most of the German army.
These hypothetical questions will never have a rational answer.
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KDF33 wrote,
Don't waste your time, he is quoting the wiki...How?
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Stalingrad on itself had no importance :the German aim was to go eastwards,AFTER an expected Soviet collaps in the South,on a DON-Volga line from Voronesh to Astrachan,and because of the Soviet collaps there would be no need to fortify this line .Besides it was also impossible to fortify this line .As Stalingrad was located on this line,the aim was to capture underway the city without losses , but all depended on the Soviets.mezsat2 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023 03:03All this said, Stalingrad could have fallen to Wehrmacht forces with tolerable losses in August 1942 were it suddenly attacked in force.
The overall strategic question is whether or not Germany could defend the Don from Voronezh to the bend in winter, and also fortify
the Don/Volga land bridge in sufficient strength. Stalin may have blown right through these defenses in Jan. Feb. 1943 straight to
Rostov and cut off most of the German army.
These hypothetical questions will never have a rational answer.
Astrachan was more important than Stalingrad, but as long as the Soviets were at Stalingrad, an advance to Astrachan was impossible .
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As usual, denying everything and showcasing total ingrorance.ljadw wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 13:00Stalingrad on itself had no importance :the German aim was to go eastwards,AFTER an expected Soviet collaps in the South,on a DON-Volga line from Voronesh to Astrachan,and because of the Soviet collaps there would be no need to fortify this line .Besides it was also impossible to fortify this line .As Stalingrad was located on this line,the aim was to capture underway the city without losses , but all depended on the Soviets.mezsat2 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023 03:03All this said, Stalingrad could have fallen to Wehrmacht forces with tolerable losses in August 1942 were it suddenly attacked in force.
The overall strategic question is whether or not Germany could defend the Don from Voronezh to the bend in winter, and also fortify
the Don/Volga land bridge in sufficient strength. Stalin may have blown right through these defenses in Jan. Feb. 1943 straight to
Rostov and cut off most of the German army.
These hypothetical questions will never have a rational answer.
Astrachan was more important than Stalingrad, but as long as the Soviets were at Stalingrad, an advance to Astrachan was impossible .

