Stiltzkin wrote: ↑
25 Sep 2018 21:07
I think that the idea of RKKA suffering 10 million losses (replaceable or not) in 1945, and keeping on fighting, is not tenable.
According to their statistics they suffered 1/4 of this, with corrected figures it would be around 1/3.
If infantry weak, not necessarily proportion 1:3. Certificates on fights in Ukraine, Germans have admitted 100 meters on distance and have mown clean all.
https://forum.dpni.org/showthread.php?t ... d1640d4457
Most of all just called up in the ranks of the Red Army perished during the crossing of the Dnieper, when people, except for the Germans, had to contend with the water element. The main blow to the enemy at the rate was decided to be inflicted by the forces of the First Ukrainian Front from the Bukrin bridgehead, where the Dnipro's very high and steep right bank, which was also well fortified by German troops, was also laid. It was this unapproachable bridgehead that had to be stormed by unarmed and unarmed soldiers.
Then the mobilization and storming of the well-known Ukrainian front-line writer Anatoly Dimarov vividly depicts: "There were no medical examinations. Cripples and sick people were taken to the front. I was already at the age of 20 disabled, blind and deaf from concussion, they still took it. And drove us to the German machine guns know with what? With half bricks! So the second genocide against the Ukrainians was. We were not equipped, not armed. We were driven all day in a fierce frost, and drove to a place, destroyed to the ground. They gave out those halves of bricks, showed a huge pond, bound with ice, and said to wait for the signal - the rocket. And when it takes off, amicably pour out on the ice and run to the enemy, which sat on the opposite side behind a strong fence, and ... knock it out with half-bricks. And he let him think it's ... grenades. There was no one to turn back, because we were shown well-equipped trenches, in which, every three steps, the scorers sat with the machine guns aimed at us in the back. I was saved only by the fact that I already smelled gunpowder and ran not in the first row, but in the fifth. We reached a hundred meters from the fence, the Germans let us in. You imagine, bare ice, there's nowhere to hide! And how they struck from machine guns with dagger fire! The guys fell down before me, as if they had been knocked down, I also fell and lay, and the soldier in front of me was already spinning from the bullets that hit him. All the time I got pissed on ... Then the Germans started shooting mortar shells, heard about such mines, which they called "cuckoo"? It falls, strikes against the ice, does not explode, but jumps up to 4-5 meters, then it explodes and the fragments go down. How did those shards not kill me? .. And then the explosion - and the black pit, which I fell into. I was picked up by the orderlies: with a tightly clamped brick in my hands. "
Even more terrible picture describes his colleague Viktor Astafyev - an eyewitness of the crossing of the Dnieper: "The most terrible were the machine guns. Easy to transfer quick-fire emkashki with tape for five hundred rounds. All of them were previously shot and now, as if from the narrow necks of the hoses, watered the shore, the island, the river, in which a mess of people was boiling.
Old and young, conscious and not conscious, volunteers and mobilized military commissariats, punitive men and guards, Russians and non-Russians - they all shouted the same words: "Mom! Godfather! God! "And" Guard! "," Help! "... And the machine guns were seked and smeared, watered with multicolored deadly trickles. Grabbing for each other wounded and those who have not yet hooked the bullets, went in bundles under the water, the river was boiling, shuddering from human convulsions, foaming with red breakers. "
The number of deaths was such that not all of them could even be buried humanly: "The corpses with their eyes hammered thickly in the water, began to limp, with faces that froze, as if soaped, were smashed by shells, mines, riddled with bullets ... Sappers , who were sent to drag the bodies out of the water and dig in them, could not cope with the work - too many people were killed ... And then, after the river, the raking of corpses continued, new pithes filled the human mess, but many and many fell in the bridgehead so and not ud moose find on the beams, to bury, "- wrote Astafyev.