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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by TheMarcksPlan » 25 Mar 2019 21:48

No serious discussion can occur on any Barbarossa-related topic so long as folks let Jesk hijack the discussion as a useful idiot for German propaganda.

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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by jesk » 25 Mar 2019 22:34

TheMarcksPlan wrote:
25 Mar 2019 21:48
No serious discussion can occur on any Barbarossa-related topic so long as folks let Jesk hijack the discussion as a useful idiot for German propaganda.
Maybe, but Lublin is sabotage. And this is important. Besides me, no one would have remembered the Ukrainian component of a funeral of Germany.

https://www.1000dokumente.de/?c=dokumen ... ranslation

The armies operating in the south of the Pripyat marshes must still be completely west of the Dnieper during the district operation and with the help of strong flanks the Russian forces stationed in Ukraine. For this purpose, it is necessary to concentrate the main direction of impact from the Lublin area in the general direction to Kiev, while the forces located in Romania form a protective flank separated by a large distance through the lower Prut current. The Romanian army is assigned the task of chaining the Russian forces between them.
At the end of the battles to the south and north of the Pripyat marshes to deploy the pursuit of the enemy

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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by jesk » 25 Mar 2019 23:09

Hitler forced to pass 200 unnecessary kilometers Germans across the territory of Ukraine. Having all opportunities to strike blow deeply to the rear.

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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by jesk » 26 Mar 2019 06:00

From a heap allocating the main thing, the situation in Ukraine became defining in delay of Barbarossa. The Ukrainian component requires the closest attention. But usually remains in the shadow of events on the Moscow direction.

http://militera.lib.ru/h/fugate/02.html

The situation in the south, however, continued to be a vexing problem. Since the end of 1940 an increasing amount of intelligence information had been filtering out of the Soviet Union that indicated beyond a doubt that a major shift in the deployment of the Red Army was taking place{49}. The new area of concentration was the Ukraine, with the buildup there placing Army Group South decisively in a numerically inferior position. Geographically, too, squeezed as it was between the Pripet Marshes on its left flank [88] and the four hundred-kilometer-long barrier of the Carpathian Mountains on its right. Army Group South could not hope to score well in the early battles along the frontier. In March 1941, von Rundstedt, the commander of Army Group South, proposed forming a "Carpathian Group" drawn from the Seventeenth Army that would use Hungarian territory as its base for the attack against Russia. This strategy would avoid clashing head-on with the three Soviet armies in the Galician-Podolian bottleneck between the Pripet swamps and the eastern Carpathians. Hitler refused, however, citing the political reservations of the Hungarian government. Thus, after the German forces in Rumania had been weakened by the Balkan campaign, and contrary to the original plan. Army Group South was to have only one wing of encirclement and the Seventeenth Army would have to advance straight into the enemy's front{50}. The growing feeling of uneasiness about the situation in the Ukraine was manifested in a conference held at the Berghof on February 3, 1941, shortly after the issuance of the Barbarossa deployment directive.

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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by jesk » 26 Mar 2019 09:07

In March 1941, Hitler actively fought for the need of suspense the attack on Moscow because of problems in Ukraine.

The words of Hitler, recorded by Halder in his diary on March 17

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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by jesk » 26 Mar 2019 09:15

March 18, Hitler hinted at the need to capture the whole of Greece. This also weakened troops in Romania.

http://militera.lib.ru/db/halder/1941_03.html

at. OKV Directive on the rear areas {993}. Heusinger: Discussion of operational capabilities based on changes regarding the Barbarossa and Marita operations {994}.
Withdrawal of the 16th Panzer Division can begin 25.3.
By 16.5 it will be possible to concentrate all mobile units of Army Groups "South" in the region north of the Carpathians; besides - there is the SS Viking division. Then the Kleist tank group will consist of five tank divisions, three motorized divisions and the Adolf Hitler standard. The nine divisions of the OKH reserve will be 2nd tier (army groups] "A" [that is, army groups "South" in the Eastern campaign] and will arrive there between 16.5 and 5.6.
Meeting with the Commander in Chief: Discussed changes in plans based on the new situation. Tasks List based on the new position ..

{994} Since Hitler on March 17 hinted at the need to capture all of Greece, the units of the 12th Army could not be used in the East either in the middle or at the end of May. Consequently, her tasks needed to be transferred to the other, 11th Army. - Approx.ger. ed.

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Re: Barbarossa Planning

Post by jesk » 26 Mar 2019 11:36

Forcing of Dniester on exercises. Hitler told that this river block any offensive.

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