Wrong.The officer is still bound by the laws and constitution.The loyalty is to Hitler as head of state and commander in chief.Without his name mentioned the amount of obediance is the same.Hanny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 12:24I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath. German military recruits swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z ... revision/7
Loyalty to a person, as opposed to the state, is not the same thing in law.
where the apolitical Wehrmacht myth come from?
Re: where the apolitical Wehrmacht myth come from?
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Re: where the apolitical Wehrmacht myth come from?
Nope i am correct.Führerprinzip makes AH above any domestic law.Aida1 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 18:26Wrong.The officer is still bound by the laws and constitution.The loyalty is to Hitler as head of state and commander in chief.Without his name mentioned the amount of obediance is the same.Hanny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 12:24I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath. German military recruits swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z ... revision/7
Loyalty to a person, as opposed to the state, is not the same thing in law.
All teachers were compulsory made to take the following oath.https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/chap_07.asp
"I pledge eternal allegiance to Adolf Hitler. I pledge unconditional obedience to him and the Fuehrers appointed by him."
In law, whatever the person swears the oath to gains his fealty, his legal obligations are now borne by the superior he has sworn to do the bidding of, be it lawfull or not, and the Führer was not bound by law or the constitution.
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Re: where the apolitical Wehrmacht myth come from?
Wrong and nobody got away with that type of defense after the war.Obeying orders was not accepted as An excuse.Hanny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 18:53Nope i am correct.Führerprinzip makes AH above any domestic law.Aida1 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 18:26Wrong.The officer is still bound by the laws and constitution.The loyalty is to Hitler as head of state and commander in chief.Without his name mentioned the amount of obediance is the same.Hanny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 12:24I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath. German military recruits swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z ... revision/7
Loyalty to a person, as opposed to the state, is not the same thing in law.
All teachers were compulsory made to take the following oath.https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/chap_07.asp
"I pledge eternal allegiance to Adolf Hitler. I pledge unconditional obedience to him and the Fuehrers appointed by him."
In law, whatever the person swears the oath to gains his fealty, his legal obligations are now borne by the superior he has sworn to do the bidding of, be it lawfull or not, and the Führer was not bound by law or the constitution.
Re: where the apolitical Wehrmacht myth come from?
Nope legally correct.
You seem unaware of how the law works.
Nazis were tried under UK and USA legal norms, not German, under UK/USA following orders was a lawfull defence. In German law, they have no option but to follow the orders, be it lawfull or not as they are oath bound to do so.
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Re: where the apolitical Wehrmacht myth come from?
Nonsense.You cannot get away with obeying an illegal order.An oath cannot bind you to the extent of obeying illegal orders.Even a head of state is bound by the lawHanny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 19:05
Nope legally correct.
You seem unaware of how the law works.
Nazis were tried under UK and USA legal norms, not German, under UK/USA following orders was a lawfull defence. In German law, they have no option but to follow the orders, be it lawfull or not as they are oath bound to do so.