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Post by Narvik » 13 May 2002 01:56

Are there any official figures on how many Great War veterans gought in the second world war(not including the volkstrum)?

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Post by Gwynn Compton » 13 May 2002 09:42

I believe your question should be worded "served" rather than "fought" as a number of the senior officers in the Wehrmacht were Great War veteran's, Rommel is a good example.

Why do you wish to exclude Volkstrum from your count? Or are you trying to produce a figure of those who were not rounded up in the last desperate conscriptions in the latter months of 1944 to provide an accurate count of how many Great War veteran's were able to serve in the Second World War?

Unfortunately I don't have any figures, but I have to admit it'll be interesting to see what it is.

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Post by Matt Gibbs » 13 May 2002 15:09

Not sure about a figure of the direct veterans who later served in WW2 . You might be able to find a figure for the members of the veteran organisations though, which might be a start...??

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Post by Bjørn from Norway » 13 May 2002 15:31

One small thing first: why do so many English speaking write "Volksstrum" instead of "Volkssturm" as it is called? Or "Liebstandarte" when it should be "Leibstandarte"??

Very many fought in both wars. Most officers, and even a grat numbers of NCOs and EM. I have never seen a figure, but have close relatives that fought and surived bith world wars.


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Post by Logan Hartke » 13 May 2002 17:57

Even though it was in the US Army, one of my great great uncles served in WWI, WWII, Korea, then asked to serve in Vietnam, but the US Army refused to give him a combat job due to his age.

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Kriegsmarine officers

Post by admfisher » 13 May 2002 21:31

I've been working on the bio's of the key men in Operation Rhine. and it's surprising to see how much experiance was shared by the commanders on both sides.

The Germans, Lutjens, Raeder, Donitz, Lindemann, Brinkmann, Tovey, Holland, Wake-Walker all were veterns.

The sea training of these officers alone could start the core of a navy.

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Post by tonyh » 14 May 2002 10:46

One small thing first: why do so many English speaking write "Volksstrum" instead of "Volkssturm" as it is called? Or "Liebstandarte" when it should be "Leibstandarte"??<<

Its just a common mistake among English speaking peoples. The "ur" thing happens quite a lot. Even with people with a high proficiency in writing. The "ie" thing in the mis-spelling "Liebstandarte" is due to the English rule of 'i' before 'e', except after 'c'. I don't think there are a lot of words in English with "ei" in it. In German theres quite a lot. "Frei", "zwei", etc. But this is quite alien in English.


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A Rhetorical Question.

Post by Zapfenstreich » 14 May 2002 23:52

Should the Jews who served in the German army in WWI and were murdered in the Nazi concentration camps in WWII be included as "Double War Veterans"?


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