German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

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German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Kurt_S » 23 Jun 2023 23:54

I'm wondering if there's any way to account for, and any accounting of, German 7.62mm ammo expenditure between rifles and MG's. Like what percentage of the standard bullet was fired by MG's? By pure RoF we'd guess the MG's did most of the shooting, as one MG could outshoot the rest of its infantry squad by a large margin. But of course MG's didn't fire continuously.

Any records of total German 7.62 expenditure by front, btw?

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Re: German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Gary Kennedy » 24 Jun 2023 14:25

There was a set allocation of rounds per weapon, with many examples available on the germandocsinrussia.com site. Not a comparison of what was fired but what reasonably expected to be fired.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/5

There are allocations for 7.92-mm for rifles (small set and large set, the former for troops in a service or support role, the latter for riflemen proper) for rifles, LMGs and HMGs. The LMG in the Squad role was a pretty consistent 2500 rounds for the duration of the war. The rifle allowance started at 60 'on man' for 1938-39, then increased to 75 by 1941. There were further rounds per weapon held in the Regimental Column and the Divisional Supply Column.

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Re: German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Poot » 25 Jun 2023 01:35

What rifles and MGs did you have in mind chambered in 7.62mm?
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Re: German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Kurt_S » 26 Jun 2023 18:03

Gary Kennedy wrote:
24 Jun 2023 14:25
There was a set allocation of rounds per weapon, with many examples available on the germandocsinrussia.com site. Not a comparison of what was fired but what reasonably expected to be fired.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... ect/zoom/5

There are allocations for 7.92-mm for rifles (small set and large set, the former for troops in a service or support role, the latter for riflemen proper) for rifles, LMGs and HMGs. The LMG in the Squad role was a pretty consistent 2500 rounds for the duration of the war. The rifle allowance started at 60 'on man' for 1938-39, then increased to 75 by 1941. There were further rounds per weapon held in the Regimental Column and the Divisional Supply Column.

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Poot wrote:
25 Jun 2023 01:35
What rifles and MGs did you have in mind chambered in 7.62mm?
7.92 x 57mm Mauser cartridge.

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Re: German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Poot » 26 Jun 2023 20:16

I'm confused. 7.62mm was the chambering for USSR MGs and Mosin-Nagant rifles and carbines. Are you trying to find the expenditure of captured Soviet ammunition through standard German MGs and rifles? That cartridge won't chamber in 7.92X57mm weapons, much less fire.
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Re: German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Kurt_S » 26 Jun 2023 21:13

Poot wrote:
26 Jun 2023 20:16
I'm confused. 7.62mm was the chambering for USSR MGs and Mosin-Nagant rifles and carbines. Are you trying to find the expenditure of captured Soviet ammunition through standard German MGs and rifles? That cartridge won't chamber in 7.92X57mm weapons, much less fire.
Nah just a typo re 7.92 vs. 7.62. I meant 7.92

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Re: German 7.62mm ammo expenditure - rifles v MG's

Post by Poot » 27 Jun 2023 18:25

Ah, I see. Thank you for clarifying.
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