marine helferin

michael smith · Post by **michael smith** » 21 Feb 2007 21:50

This is a photo of a young marine aux.I would like to know the dia.of the brooch she wears on her tie.I have a similaire brooch but it is 30mm. in dia.this one looks bigger.Many thanks.

Vikki · Post by **Vikki** » 22 Feb 2007 03:30

Hello Michael,

Your brooch is probably the standard service brooch that Marinehelferinnen received at the completion of their training, since those measure about 30 mm.

Take a look at the photo of one of the standard service brooches in my collection, on the first page of the thread below. It too measures just over 30mm (3cm):
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=96468

The Helferin in the photo you've posted, on the other hand, appears to be wearing a Leader's brooch. These had a wider, decorated border than the standard Marinehelferin service brooches, like the one worn by the KM Helferin in the photo Torsten posted (about halfway down page 4) in this thread:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=66200

Strange, though, because neither the tunic collar nor cap of the lady in the picture you posted appear to be piped in the twisted yellow and navy blue twisted cord, which would normally accompany the Leader's brooch for Führerin ranks and above.

Hope this helps.

Best,
~Vikki

Vikki · Post by **Vikki** » 22 Jun 2007 02:56

Hello Michael,

The photo I've posted isn't great for detail, since I made it on a scanner. But it should give you an idea of the relative sizes of the Marinehelferin and Führerin brooches.

By the way, at a closer look at the picture you posted (and on a better computer), the upper collar of the woman in the picture does appear to be piped. I'd be curious to see a closeup of her collar.

Best,
~Vikki

michael smith · Post by **michael smith** » 22 Jun 2007 08:52

Thanks for the info. Vikki.I will see what i can do.Regards Mike

michael smith · Post by **michael smith** » 22 Jun 2007 13:45

I am going to attempt to show a better photo of lapel area,she has got braid on the lapels of her jacket.

Vikki · Post by **Vikki** » 24 Jun 2007 05:09

Thanks Michael! It's a great photo! Did your brooch come with the picture?

Best,
~Vikki

michael smith · Post by **michael smith** » 24 Jun 2007 09:20

Yes it did Vikki.I would love to find out who she was.
Best regards Mike.

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