Charlotte Klein photos and bio

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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Hans1906 » 10 May 2022 16:59

Keeping these perpetrators in the spotlight will not do anything, it's pointless, all of theme are dead and gone.

You have to see the places of that time, visit them and capture the "atmosphere" there yourself.
Only then can one really understand what was possible.

Taking photos there with a modern camera is out of the question for me personally.

Germany is overflowing with such places, I have seen many, many I will never see myself.

For me it's "self-protection" so as not to despair completely.

SS Helferin videos: https://www.google.com/search?q=ss+helf ... -wiz-video

SS Gefolge: https://www.google.com/search?q=ss+gefo ... =759&dpr=1


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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Hans1906 » 10 May 2022 17:27

The documentary "The Women of Ravensbrück" is outstanding, unique.



Disturbing, hard to take


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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Uncle John » 11 May 2022 07:41

VanillaNuns wrote:
10 May 2022 15:59
Fantastic, thanks for sharing all these and for the added work of adding the names.

I don't suppose you could identify everyone in this photo? It's one of those you posted earlier.

Many thanks again. :thumbsup:
You're welcome Vanilla.
No problem buddy, I'll write names for you.....

Picture from your post #29
Back row, left to right:
Charlotte Klein, Charlotte Pliquet, Lisbeth Fritzner, Gertrude Feist, Irene Haschke, Herta Ehlert and Elizabeth Volkenrath.
Front row, left to right:
Marta Lobelt, Ilse Forster, Ruth Astrosini, Rosina Scheiber, Gertrud Neumann* and the last one....I don't know, sorry.

First Picture from your post #30
Left to right:
Lisbeth Fritzner, Hilde Lisiewitz (wow, never seen her on catwalk before) and Elizabeth Volkenrath.
Second Picture, left to right:
Charlotte Klein, Herta Bothe and Martha Linke.


*Edit: Wrong identification, changed from Hildegard Hahnel to Gertrud Neumann
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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by VanillaNuns » 11 May 2022 12:03

Thanks. Yes, I can see the strong resemblance to Martha Linke now. She hasn't changed too much in her photographs after arrest.

According to Ancestry (her family maintain a page there going all the way back to the 19th century):

Martha Linke was born in 1908. She died in 1995, in Bergen, Celle, Niedersachsen, Germany, at the age of 87.

Biographies of many of the women detained at Celle can be found here in this topic. Very interesting:

viewtopic.php?t=42637

I post more again later today. 👍 😎

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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Attilathe43rdhun » 14 Jun 2022 19:44

The badge patch mentioned in post #17, indicates she holds one of the following positions:
Rapportführerin
Arbeitdienstführerin
Hundeführerin
Aresteführerin
Blockleiterin/Blockführerin.

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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Uncle John » 20 Jun 2022 09:43

Thanks.
Couldn't find anything about badges on google engine......

Translation:
Rapportführerin ---------- Report Leader
Arbeitdienstführerin ----- Work Service Leader
Hundeführerin ------------- Dog Handler
Aresteführerin ------------- Areste Leader
Blockleiterin/Blockführerin --- Block Manager/Block Leader

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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Attilathe43rdhun » 04 Jul 2022 16:27

Uncle John, the information comes from a Polish blog/website by the name "THE HISTORY OF THE RAVENSBRÜCK CAMP' , the author is Joanna Czopowicz. She has done a good bit of research along with several publications concerning the Aufseherin and SS-Gefolge. The following link is to the page of her blog were the insignia is described by her based on post war accounts from the female overseers and a document dated March 1944.

https://ssaufseherin.blogspot.com/2018/ ... rczyn.html

She has a very fascinating site.

Hope this helps. :-)

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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Jul 2022 13:54

@ "Uncle John",

This "avatar", this photo, it's hard to believe that something like this is still accepted here at the AHF, unbelievable!

This is a mockery of the many victims, you should crawl into the deepest possible hole on earth, how is something like that still possible...


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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Jul 2022 14:09

Why are these deniers still allowed a platform,when at the same time every shit is banned or removed entirely?

Your "standards" are the problem, that's why many internet forums failed, finally.


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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Uncle John » 19 Jul 2022 13:12

Attilathe43rdhun wrote:
04 Jul 2022 16:27
Uncle John, the information comes from a Polish blog/website by the name "THE HISTORY OF THE RAVENSBRÜCK CAMP' , the author is Joanna Czopowicz. She has done a good bit of research along with several publications concerning the Aufseherin and SS-Gefolge. The following link is to the page of her blog were the insignia is described by her based on post war accounts from the female overseers and a document dated March 1944.

https://ssaufseherin.blogspot.com/2018/ ... rczyn.html

She has a very fascinating site.

Hope this helps. :-)
Wow, that's great!
Thank you so much for the link
Cheers!! :)

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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Uncle John » 19 Jul 2022 13:40

The photo I posted a couple of months ago, I wanted to see what it like around the court yard at Celle prison today on Google images.....heh, nothing......because the prison is still in operation....and no pictures! :)
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I knew some of buildings around the yard except south side, demolished to make way for new modern security improvements.
I figured it out where that picture was taken on satellite Google map with a little help from the sun.....
Location.jpg
There is no "corner" on Google map.

A photo of camp guards stand in front of a steel gate, faced to the sun (around 11am-noon)
Camp Guards.jpg
Found an image from Flickr.com
Yep, that black gate #3....same spot....
See the cobblestones?.....still there.....looks the same!! :)
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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by Uncle John » 12 Jan 2023 06:51

Hey,
Um.... just forget about what I said in my last post #41.... (about the courtyard)

My apologies, I just realized that old 1945 courtyard was really very very small, about 26ft wide (8m) and 60ft long (18m)....

The current backyard in that prison is huge, roughy 90ft x 250ft (27m x 76m)
Celle Now.jpg
So, I cannot pinpoint the location on Google Map or Earth....I might open a new topic sometime soon....to get some info to find the location.


OK.....back to this topic, I've found some rare photos from someone else's album.... I've never seen them before....
Charlotte is on the right... behind her is Gertrude Feist, third is Rosina Schieber and last is Marta Löbelt
Last 2 were telephone operators and both have been released without trial...
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Re: Charlotte Klein photos and bio

Post by dgfred » 12 Jan 2023 16:34

Nice work

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