1945 Lost German girl

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Vikki » 03 Dec 2008 04:50

Penn44 wrote:You all have a vivid imagination.

Now, what I see is a woman who should not have been part of an army of conquest, and then lose the war.

As far as speculating what she did after the war: after her obviously failed career in the SS, she probably became one of the many German girls who hung outside American Kasernes in Germany performing all kinds of feats for candy bars and cigarettes. If she was lucky, she married an American, and moved to the US.

Obviously, she is no Max Schmeling, however, she would have benefitted had she implemented a little of that "bobbing” and “weaving" boxing technique in order to avoid some of those punches she received.

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Penn44,

Most of us find seeing male members of a defeated army physically beaten outside of combat hard to take; for normal viewers, seeing the same done to a woman, whether military or civilian, on the losing side or the winning, is abhorrent. If you find some humour or fetishistic attraction in seeing a woman physically brutalized and/or humiliated, subjugated, or economically forced into prostitution, please keep it to yourself, as normal readers don’t share your tastes.

Treat the subject seriously, or don’t post here.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Vikki » 03 Dec 2008 07:45

A post by Penn44 was removed due to Teleological "reasoning" and vague, generally derogatory remarks about other posts in this thread and the board in general.

Penn, if you have a complaint about posts here, please state them clearly, with specific sources to back up your specific point(s). Any other posts will be deleted on sight.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Stephan » 12 Dec 2008 22:48

Vikki wrote:
Most of us find seeing male members of a defeated army physically beaten outside of combat hard to take; for normal viewers, seeing the same done to a woman, whether military or civilian, on the losing side or the winning, is abhorrent.


IF she was identified as a SS-woman, raping and beating her was probably a sort of considerate treatment. (!). We saw in the links the male SS-soldiers were executed in a careless way, the executioners not even bothering to do the killing properly. 8O Thus she, being a woman, was "only" raped and beaten some, but otherwise left alive and more or less healthy.


(Possibly a prisoner-colonn was shot at?? Such things happened. And the guards simply leaving those who couldnt go on. But also in this variation her fate was not quite as terrible as many of the mens).

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Penn44 » 13 Dec 2008 01:35

You posters can speculate until the cows come home, but the fact is you don't know, and you are wasting your time.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Stephan » 13 Dec 2008 10:32

Penn44 wrote:You posters can speculate until the cows come home, but the fact is you don't know, and you are wasting your time.

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Right you are here! But wasting time? Nooo....

Besides, intelligent quessing isnt no waste. It is a nice and stimulating pastime. There is also a good chance the suggestions will strike on a cord in someone; a memory or even an understanding awakes - and voilá! Together we have found a solution, a truth none of us had alone.


To know facts for sure, and know good sources is very good and highly recommendable, but this here other method is also useful, as long as you use it sensibly - and know what it is. :)

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby ignacioosacar » 16 Dec 2008 19:32

Stephan:

Very intelligent reasoning and positive thinking

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Vikki » 17 Dec 2008 16:30

A further insult post by Penn44 was removed by this moderator.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Tonyny44 » 22 Dec 2008 02:31

Just bumping this up in the hope that someone may add something NEW to the topic as this girl fascinates me.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Simon K » 22 Dec 2008 03:11

Why does she fascinate you?

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Tonyny44 » 22 Dec 2008 16:23

Simon K wrote:Why does she fascinate you?


Because she's cute :wink: Or were you expecting a long dissertation on this? I'm always fascinated by mysteries.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Simon K » 22 Dec 2008 19:19

What ever floats your boat. :lol:

Good luck with reviving the thread.

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Mr Holmes » 02 Jan 2009 14:27

What a horrible time I had watching that. Never should have looked at it -- man, I've had nightmares of women walking about aimlessly, almost zombie-like, the girl in the video is the epitome of the sort of stuff that has woken me at night. That guy lying stripped to his chest with those eyes that have seen (or been through) too much - appalling stuff.

Someone asked for a bigger version, hope this suffices (although not as clear as the Spielberg one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE4wY-NniQQ

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby SeaofJapan » 19 Jan 2009 22:36

at least she is alive, which cannot be said about some 20 million other people from the same time. But yeah, its a sad clip... I bet the americans took good care of her and i am sure the Czechs spared her instead of killing her. We do not know her history, if she is an SS woman i am certain she has committed terrible crimes which if so overshadows what somebody did to her...

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby ignacioosacar » 25 Jan 2009 17:11

What if she was an SS typist or telephone operator ?

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Re: 1945 LOST GERMAN GIRL

Postby Hawkwind » 28 Jan 2009 00:40

ignacioosacar wrote:What if she was an SS typist or telephone operator ?


What if she wasn't? You can't assume she was guilty of some crime and even if she was nobody gets sentenced to being raped and beaten.

The treatments German women endured, especially by the Soviets, is somewhat understandable but it is never justifiable. Indiscriminate rape and pillage by the Soviet Army made no distinction between SS women, innocent German women, nuns in convents, or Jewish women liberated from concentration camps.


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