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Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 21 Apr 2011 18:54

After the death of Inga Ley, Robert Ley
as a lover and Madeleine Wanderer
she had a son, Robert Rollf 28
July 1944. We have more
information?
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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 22 Apr 2011 15:36

Robert Ley was the secretary and mother of his youngest son. She was born in Estonia and had 19 years in 1945. I find a record of the interrogation of U.S. Army Interrogation Center.
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Re: Ley's mistress

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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 22 Aug 2012 10:02

Madeleine Wanderer was one of the dancers in this ballet: Reichsballet

Probably in the winter 1940/41 decided Robert Ley, the Reich Leader of the 'German Labour Front, NS Community Strength through Joy ", which from 1933 to 1945 headed the recreation of the German population in terms of Nazi cultural policy, to call a German ballet to life with, its organizational implementation of State Heinz Tietjen, then director of the Berlin State Opera, and Bodo Lafferentz, Nazi official and performed organizer of Bayreuth "War Festival" commissioned. The management and artistic responsibility this KdF Ballet took over the spring of 1941, the dancer, choreographer, researcher and collector Friderica Derra de Moroda (1897-1978). The collated by herself ensemble that first "Chamber Dance Group Derra de Moroda" and later "The ballet of the NS Community Strength through Joy" and finally "Empire Ballet Nazi Community Strength through Joy" was included, as an artistic assistant Derra de Morodas Tamara Rauser, Eugenie Litvinova and Otto Struller to, for the music was seriously Abromeit, in charge of decorations and equipment Luigi Malipiero. As prima ballerinas and dancers including Dionysius had Anwelt, Rita Anwelt, Maja Beck, Ludmilla Dibbern, Frederick Bucher, Marcel fennel (Luipart), Georg Groke, Helen Kalischewska, Harald Mariste, Leopold Möls and Otto Struller. Until 1944 created Derra de Moroda several ballets that brought them on annual tours of several German cities to the stage. Where on 5 May 1942, published in the Salzburg provincial newspaper article "ballet as a cultural medium in war" Derra de Moroda illustrated in the language for them typical, immediate and very personal style (in the I-form) acts as head of the KdF Ballet, which according to their believes "do not act complaining to the audience, but are [...] not even light entertainment [is]." Not without problems proved to Derras describing the compilation of a suitable ensemble and the training to their dance education intentions and claims to which they seem to put a high value. In the second part of the article describes concrete Derra de Moroda listed in Salzburg ballet Classical Ballet Suite, Botticelli and Hungaria, with whom the KdF Ballet in February 1942 was the first time at the Berlin State Opera (Kroll Opera) occurred. Apparently it was her in the design of these ballets of special concern, within the limits of the Nazi cultural policy framework to offer as wide a range of style, dance, technical, musical and choreographic parameters and the public use to convey accordingly trained dancers, with their " main task "to saw" show my dancers the way to understand the meaning of each style or character to be displayed and again to convey to the audience. " Literature: Dahms, Sibylle: The dance - a life. Friderica Derra de Moroda 1897-1978, in: Dahms, Sibylle; Schroedter, Stephanie (ed.): The dance - a life. In Memoriam Friderica Derra de Moroda. Festschrift Salzburg 1997 (Publications of the Institute of Musicology at the University of Salzburg Derra de Moroda Dance Dance Archives research IV..), Pp. 9-116, here pp. 82-105; Oberzaucher-Schuller, Gunhild: Classical order in Nazi dance landscape. Derra de Moroda and the KdF ballet. In: Jeschke, Claudia; Haitzinger, Nicole (ed.): Dance and Archives: research trips. Biografik, Issue 2 (Derra dance research), Munich: epodium 2010, pp. 101-119.
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Re: Ley's mistress

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Friderica Derra de Moroda (* 2 June 1897 in Bratislava, Slovakia, † 19 June 1978 in Salzburg ) was a major dancer, choreographer and dance teacher.

Life

Friderica was the daughter of a Greek writer and a Hungarian art historian. After his father's death the family moved to Munich, and here she was enjoying her first ballet lesson. On 22nd February 1912 she had her first public appearance as a dancer in the Viennese Secession.

When the war began in 1914 was Friderica with her ​​mother in England and settled there. Her sister had recently Minka living in Salzburg, Munich Beer Baron Ludwig Schmederer married. After the First World War Moroda founded in London her first dance school and worked as a journalist for publications such as the Dancing Times . From 1918 , she received four years teaching at Enrico Cecchetti and then joined in 1923 the first time in Salzburg: A solo dance in the Great Hall of the Mozarteum wowed the audience.

The year 1928 Moroda spent in Hungary for the study of folk dances, in the 1930s, she worked as a correspondent for the German magazine The dance and has taught at the Mozarteum ( 1934 - 1939 ) and Berlin (from 1937) holds. She was also active as a Ballettprüferin in England and South Africa. 1936 she took British citizenship.

As the Second World War breaks out to keep Friderica Derra de Moroda straight with her ​​sister in Parsch on and stays there. 1941 she receives a surprise offer in Berlin to take a classical dance company. Until 1944 this ballet has regularly toured, then the dance production will be stopped completely in the last months of the war. Moroda interned as a British citizen in a camp on Lake Constance.

After liberation by the Allies in June Moroda returns in 1945 back to Parsch, since her house was destroyed by bombs in London. After the death of her sister Minka in December 1950 inherits Friderica the Villa Schmederer and directed here in 1952 a ballet school, it operates by 1967 and especially the members of the National Theatre Ballet, but also dance, gifted children, as the later solo dancer Margot Werner visit.

From 1960 she is also dedicated to the dance again increased research and builds on an extensive library of dance-specific literature.

A year after her 80th Birthday Moroda died and was on the cemetery Aigen buried. The legacy of the "Derra de Moroda Dance Archives" has since been at the Institute for Musicology of the University of Salzburg publicly.

Since 1982 is the Derra de Moroda street named after her in the Salzburg district of Parsch.

Honours

1965 received Friderica Derra de Moroda her first major award, the Silver Medal of the City of Salzburg arms. This was followed in 1972 was appointed professor of the University of Salzburg and in 1974 by Queen Elizabeth II. an OBE (Officer of the Ordinary Civil Division of the Order of the British Empire) for services as President of the Anglo-Austrian Society On her 80th Birthday she was in Salzburg with the Golden Medal Award of Salzburg and the Honorary Doctor of the University.

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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 31 May 2018 00:46

Update:

Madeleine Wanderer was born in Tallin (Estonia) on May 5, 1926.
Died in Florida (USA) on March 10, 2007.

His name in the United States was Madeleine Farr.
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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Annelie » 31 May 2018 01:13

Don't know why but I checked.....

Madeline's Obituary


Farr , Madeline, of Coral Springs, FL passed away on March 10, 2007. Kraeer Funeral Home & Cremation Center.
Shame no mention was made anywhere about her dancing.

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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 31 May 2018 01:33

He lived in Pompano Beach.
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Post by Helge » 31 May 2018 08:51

In Estonian the surname "Wanderer" (with initial letter W) does not exist. The correct diction in the Estonian language is "Vanderer". I think the surname was germanized for the different German pronunciation of the letter V and the letter W.
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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 27 Jan 2019 19:46

Madelein Farr nee Wanderer
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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by DavidFrankenberg » 04 Feb 2019 19:28

Helge wrote:
21 Apr 2011 18:54
After the death of Inga Ley, Robert Ley
as a lover and Madeleine Wanderer
she had a son, Robert Rollf 28
July 1944. We have more
information?
Hi,

Let me quote what i have written that about Ley's mistresses in a post about Inga Ley :

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Hildegarge Brüninghoof née Schöninger was born in Münich 4 june 1916. Her father was captain in the army. She joined the Hitler Youth the 1st july of 1932, and worked as typing girl from june 1932 to sept 1933 for the Reichspropagandaleitung. The 1st june 1933, she joined the Nazi Party, as soon as she was 18. Then she worked for the German Labor Front from october 1933 to 21 january 1934 as the secretary of Hanz Weydeman (Office for Culture and Education). She then joined the Office of Beauty of Work for 3-4 months. Then in december 1934 she became Ley's secretary, she was 19 yo. From 1934 to 1937, there was another secretary girl in the office : Mathilda Klose. Since Klose left, Bruninghoff became Ley's principal secretary (1937). In 1938 Bruninghoff had a child, a daughter. In january 1939 Hildegarde Schoeninger became Hildegarde Brueninghoff. His husband has been declared missing in Vitebsk in eastern front since the 27th june 1944. The same year 1939, in october, Hildegarde became Inga's secretary. She took care of the children, went on shopping with Inga etc. Inga was always doped since an accident during her pregnancy of Gloria (born 27th june 1941). In 1938 Paula Müller joined the office. Another was Kjadocus and another was Gerda Kruger who joined in 1936, ther was also Margarete Schroeder. Charlotte Seewald replaced Kruger because of illness in 1941. Kruger rejoined the office as bookeeper in 1943. Müller was the private secretary (mistress?) of Ley in office. In june 1942 Hildegarde quarrelled with Inga, she is moved back in the office and presented her dismissal to Ley who refused it. In december 1943 she proposed again her dismissal, again refused by Ley.
She believed Ley was not rich, despite she believed he was paid 4000 RM a month as leader of German Front, +2000 as from the Party and +750 as a deputy. That makes 70.000 RM a year. Der Angriff magazine paid him 50.000 RM a year. Indeed he earned 4000 monthly fomr the party, 500 fro prussian state and 540 from Reichstag + 150.000 a year from Eher Verlag. It was taxed at 60%.
In 1940, Hitler gave him 1 million RM.
His farm was located in Rhineland near Waldbrül. It was 500 acres wide. When the farm was blown up, he moved the family and valuable things to Allgau.

In 1940/1, in occupied France, he bought jewels for 79.000 RM. The total jewels of his was estimated between 100.000 and 250.000$ at the end of the war. He possessed a picture . He had 4 valuable pictures in his ranch in Waldbröhl, one of them represented Frederik the Great by Pesne, one Kaulbach painting, 2 Menzel sketches, and 1 Korinth. All his daily costs were paid by the state. Although he had debst of 200.000 RM at the end. He spent all his personal money and even indebted because of his constant reconstruction of his personal ranch in Waldbröhl (despite the law forbade it). He had to pay on his own his farm's employees : 1 cook, 2 maids for children, 1 chambermaid, 1 inspector, 1 dairyman and 1 farm secretary. That should cost a lot. He arranged the thing by paying 1000 RM a month to DAF which in return paid all his employees (!).

In the end of march 1945, Ley gave H. Brüninghoff 50.000 RM and 2 letters (one for Madeleine Wanderer and the other for Rose Spileker, mother of Inga) and ordered her to bring it to the children (Lore born in late december 1938, Wolf born 14th may 1940, Gloria born 27th june 1941 and Rolf [baby of Madeleine] born in 1944), Madeleine Wanderer and the grandmother of the children (Mrs Spileker) who were in Ordensburg. He moved those pictures to Ordensburg before he burned the house. Hildegarde then moved to Münich and Innsbrück.
She took care the children of Ley, of Wanderer, of the grand mother, and of her own child. She was arrested the 11th june 1945.
The 4 children of Ley were from 3 different women : Renate born 29th july 1922 from his first spouse (name?) ; Lore, Wolf, Gloria born from Inga ; Rolf-Robert (born end of july 1944) from Madeleine Wanderer.

In autumn 1943, a fire happened in Bruninghoff's house. She lived near the Reichpalast. The dancers of the Reichpalast came to help her stopping the fire. Ley lived not far and he came too ; he invited the dancers in his house. This is how he met Madeleine Wanderer who was a dancer at the Reichspalast. Madeleine was 17 yo. She became his mistress few weeks after that. Wanderer had a boy with Ley, born 28/29 july 1944.
Inga's mother was sad of this betrayal. She fed up with Ley. She took care of the 4 children of Ley, even the one born from Wanderer (!). Ing'as mother was christian and raised children in a christian way. Ley was not christian.
Ley married Inga Hansen-Spileker in 1938. Hitler liked Inga very much, in 1940 he came to their house once or twice a week. In Brüninghoff's opinion, Ley knew many women before his marriage with Inga, but while engaged with Inga then Madeleine, he was a fidel husband she said. :roll:

My personal thoughts after the reading of those 101 pages file :
Brüninghoff had one child, a daughter. The father is officially her husband. She didnt seem to like him much, she didnt speak about him (she didnt even say his name!). Wasnt Ley the father ? Ley aprreciated women, especially very young women. She got pregnant while being Ley's private secretary, and she married after giving birth... was it an arranged marriage ? He must be the father in my opinion. After she gave birth, she stopped working in the office and became Inga's secretary, that meant she was Ing'as partner in shopping etc... that was a kind of promotion. In my opinion Paula Müller became also his mistress, but she didnt get pregnant ; he must have focused on Wanderer since autumn 1943.
H. Brüninghoff seems nasty to me : she didnt say the truth, she presents Ley as a good guy with bad behavior, his way of life was expensive but he was supposed to be rich etc... she is ont supposed to have been his mistress, but he had a lot of affairs... and while she was not his private secretary for a while, he chose her to take care of his children at the end of the war. All this lead me to think she was a confident and the mistress of Ley. She preserved herself by not saying it to the Americans.

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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by DavidFrankenberg » 04 Feb 2019 19:43

Helge wrote:
22 Apr 2011 15:36
Robert Ley was the secretary and mother of his youngest son. She was born in Estonia and had 19 years in 1945. I find a record of the interrogation of U.S. Army Interrogation Center.
Who was the source ?
He was a man working at Ley's home. He was there when Inga shot herself.
A name ?

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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by Helge » 06 Feb 2019 19:52

DavidFrankenberg wrote:
04 Feb 2019 19:43
Helge wrote:
22 Apr 2011 15:36
Robert Ley was the secretary and mother of his youngest son. She was born in Estonia and had 19 years in 1945. I find a record of the interrogation of U.S. Army Interrogation Center.
Who was the source ?
He was a man working at Ley's home. He was there when Inga shot herself.
A name ?
When Inga commits suicide, they are on the lower floor: Robert Ley, Hildegard Bruninghoff (secretary of the staff of Robert Ley) and Otto Marrenbach.
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Re: Ley's mistress

Post by DavidFrankenberg » 06 Feb 2019 20:48

Helge wrote:
06 Feb 2019 19:52
DavidFrankenberg wrote:
04 Feb 2019 19:43
Helge wrote:
22 Apr 2011 15:36
Robert Ley was the secretary and mother of his youngest son. She was born in Estonia and had 19 years in 1945. I find a record of the interrogation of U.S. Army Interrogation Center.
Who was the source ?
He was a man working at Ley's home. He was there when Inga shot herself.
A name ?
When Inga commits suicide, they are on the lower floor: Robert Ley, Hildegard Bruninghoff (secretary of the staff of Robert Ley) and Otto Marrenbach.
So the source is Otto Marrenbach.

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