Martin Bormann & his wife Gerda

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerta

Post by Helge » 24 Jul 2011 13:49

Gerda Bormann to Martin Bormann
Obersalzberg 7. 10. 1944

My dearest Daddy,

I want at least to start my letter to you
this evening. Dearest, I am so glad that you have come
home safely from Schmundt's funeral. They're giving
'Pagliacci' on the wireless, I know you are so fond of it, too.
It has been the first time I heard the whole of it, even though
it was much interrupted by reports on the air situation. Is it
really so, [YES] or is it my imagination, that enemy air
activity is particularly great at present, and that we are
shooting down comparatively few of them?

I heard from Walter that Mohrle Grimm was in Rumania
after all. She went on a visit to her husband and told her
people at home: 'If things are getting too dangerous, Wolf
will send me home anyway.' But Grimms have had no news
of her at all. [MOST OF THE WOMEN WERE OUTSIDE BUCHAREST
BECAUSE OF THE AIR RAIDS, SO FOR INSTANCE KILLINGER'S WIFE
AND DAUGHTER. ALL WHO REMAINED AT THE EMBASSY MUST
BE ASSUMED DEAD.] Didn't the women from the Embassy
manage to get across the frontier to Hungary in time?
[UNFORTUNATELY THEY DIDN'T.] After all, in Rumania
things didn't develop so suddenly, the men at the Embassy
should have noticed what was going on. [UNFORTUNATELY
THEY DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING!] Do you have any informa-
tion? Her name is Margarete Diettler, née Grimm. Her
husband was attaché, as far as I know; possibly Hewel knows
more details. The waiting is quite terrible for Aunt Wig.
There she sits now in Lörrach, with the three little children,
and has Wiggele with her small daughter on her hands as
well. I hope Mohrle turns up after all, [I DON'T BELIEVE IT]
but it will soon be too late for that. Walter is back in
Swinemünde, or wherever it is, to take over his new ship,
and it isn't possible for him to come here now. Eike is very
unhappy about it. . . .

. . . One day it must all be different and so that you will



Publication Information: Book Title: The Bormann Letters: The Private Correspondence between Martin Bormann and His Wife from January 1943 to April 1945. Contributors: H. R. Trevor-Roper - editor, Martin Bormann - author. Publisher: Weidenfeld and Nicholson. Place of Publication: London. Publication Year: 1954.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerta

Post by Annelie » 24 Jul 2011 14:01

Thankyou Helge.

Was interesting reading and shows that they were completely supporting each other in all their endeavors.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerta

Post by Helge » 24 Jul 2011 14:05

Annelie wrote:Thankyou Helge.

Was interesting reading and shows that they were completely supporting each other in all their endeavors.
Thanks Annelie. In a few days I will publish all the letters in English. So we know all of what we speak.

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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Annelie » 24 Jul 2011 14:42

Its a lot of work, and I appreciate it.

Thankyou

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helly Angel » 24 Jul 2011 15:06

GREAT Work Helge... THANKS!!!!

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helge » 25 Jul 2011 16:54

M.B. to G.B.
Führer's Headquarters
Wolfsschanze
12.8.1944

My infinitely beloved Sweetheart,

My beloved Mummy-Girl,

Thank you for the beautiful days you gave me!

You get lovelier every day, you're as slim as a fairy and look so that I have to fall in love with you anew every hour.

I only regret that my really nasty headaches prevented me from being as joyously happy as you deserve! Never
mind, next time--you utterly beloved!

I hope I succeeded in consoling Nelli a little; at any rate she is surely glad that I intend to act as a father to her
children.

Though I worked like a beaver in Berlin yesterday, until the train left,--you know how fast I work--I found a lot of
new work waiting for me here--memos. from Müller, telegrams, new mail! Even in the train I went on slogging
away until midnight. Now I've been sitting at my desk for two hours--I haven't even had time for breakfast.

My darling Mummy-Girl, stay well, take good care of all the children and make sure the maids do the same.

Tell Krönzi to drive very carefully and Eike to be careful when she goes swimming. Above all keep a careful eye on
Hartmut, else he's sure to fall into or off something or other. In Schluchsee take care the children don't go to the
lake without strict supervision, and get seized and carried away by a sudden wave.

Well, dear heart, keep your eyes open. Always think out in advance exactly what may happen in the next hours, the
next few days, the next weeks and months, and do it again and again.

This is necessary.

Affectionately and wholly your

M.


Publication Information: Book Title: The Bormann Letters: The Private Correspondence between Martin Bormann and His Wife from January 1943 to April 1945. Contributors: H. R. Trevor-Roper - editor, Martin Bormann - author. Publisher: Weidenfeld and Nicholson. Place of Publication: London. Publication Year: 1954.
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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helge » 25 Jul 2011 16:55

M.B. to G.B.
Fuehrer's Headquarters
12/13.8.1944

My dearest Mummy-Girl,

It is 18 min. past midnight, the
conference on the situation is still going on, and it is gradually
becoming doubtful whether I shall still be called in to report.
So I may as well start this Sunday letter to you, my sweet.

This morning I reported back to the Fuehrer; he was, as
always, touchingly kind to me. After all, he must have some
people he can trust unreservedly.

This afternoon I called on the injured: Scherff was full of
exuberance, funny stories and wisecracks. He at once drank
Trollinger with us, that is, a red local wine from Swabia,
which his Gauleiter had sent him.

Borgmann was overjoyed because as from today he is
allowed to get up ten minutes every day. He still gets dizzy
and his head seems to be held in a vice, but still, things are
progressing. Schmundt asked Himmler, Fegelein and myself
not to come, he was feeling too weak. He is still rather low.

Puma was up already, he was lying in the sun and at once
opened one of the bottles of Steinhäger which I had taken
with me in addition to some other spiritual nourishment.
But he is still hobbling noticeably and has to use two crutches.

Captain Assmann's hands are even worse than Scherff's:
still completely bandaged, partly with tannic acid and partly
with silver foil, covered in fat, badly swollen, reddened,
thickened and in places raw, they still look very ugly. So,
for the time being, Scherff and Assmann must still be given
their food and drink like a couple of babies.

Tomorrow I must inquire about Bodenschatz.

Today something really very nice happened to me. You can
see it from the enclosed letter from old Giesecke. It's really
very kind of the old gentleman, who must surely count 73 to
76 summers, to send me my father's photograph. It is the
one you know, and shows my father in the uniform of the
cuirassiers. I'm keeping it here, with the photos of yourself



Publication Information: Book Title: The Bormann Letters: The Private Correspondence between Martin Bormann and His Wife from January 1943 to April 1945. Contributors: H. R. Trevor-Roper - editor, Martin Bormann - author. Publisher: Weidenfeld and Nicholson. Place of Publication: London.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helge » 25 Jul 2011 16:58

M.B. to G.B.
Fuehrer's Headquarters
13. 8. 1944

My Sweetheart,

This is already the third letter within
twenty-four hours! It will show you how deeply your old
gentleman is in love with you.

But, you know, at a time when multiple treachery is lurk-
ing at every corner, it is a double reason for joy to be able
to call such unbelievably great family happiness one's own!

Go on staying fond of me, my beautiful, and take great
care of your own health and of the children.

We shall have to be very cautious over the telephone!
Today we discovered that the enemy's so-called 'Soldaten-
sender Calais' had been broadcasting items which had been
telephoned to Berlin from here only 24 hours earlier. Ob-
viously, therefore, there is a huge fault somewhere in our mesh,
and surely we have so far caught only part of the whole
espionage and treachery set-up. Isn't it appalling? And you
see--in contrast to those loathsome things you are the great
happiness in my life.

All your

M.


M.B. to G.B.
Fuehrer's Headquarters
14.8. 1944

My dear Heart,

Today has been a black day for me, so
upsetting that I must write you about it.

As you know, I am greatly reproaching myself because I
had for years considered Brandt to be a decent man, i.e. a
man with an unselfish mind. It was I who proposed him for
the Badge of Honour; shortly afterwards it was brought home
to me that Brandt was behaving in the most repulsive, un-
pleasant manner towards Conti. 1 After he had been given

____________________
1 Dr. Conti, Reich Health Leader.


Publication Information: Book Title: The Bormann Letters: The Private Correspondence between Martin Bormann and His Wife from January 1943 to April 1945. Contributors: H. R. Trevor-Roper - editor, Martin Bormann - author. Publisher: Weidenfeld and Nicholson. Place of Publication: London. Publication Year: 1954.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helge » 25 Jul 2011 17:01

M.B. to G.B.
Fuehrer's Headquarters

9.9. 1944

5.20 p.m.

Heart's Delight,

In the meantime I have heard from Helmut
that his conversation with Speer passed off nicely, everything
considered; still, Speer wanted to speak with Giesler as well,
after seeing Helmut, whom he called a 'sly fox'. Let's wait
and see what comes after.

For days I have wanted to use up the film I started on the
Ligeret, but so far I haven't got round to it.

Once again my best thanks for the dear photos. If I am
there one day, you will have to fill in the dates on the backs
of the snapshots, wherever necessary.

In haste,

Your

M.


M.B. to G.B.
10.9. 1944

My All-Beloved,

Though it is Sunday today, work never
stops--it is only at night that I can write in peace. As the
cake and the suitcase with the books should leave at once,
only these greetings in a hurry !

Thank goodness, my dear Ruder whom we already
imagined hanged (the French Maquis hanged all our Party
men and policemen who fell into their hands--the Ameri-
cans, too, acted similarly) has turned up here after all.
Ruder is the chief of my NSFO 1 staff, an efficient fellow. A
great number of my people are posted, as pacemakers and
supervisors, to the fortification works in the West. I love you
beyond measure!

Your

M.

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within the Geman armed forces.


Publication Information: Book Title: The Bormann Letters: The Private Correspondence between Martin Bormann and His Wife from January 1943 to April 1945. Contributors: H. R. Trevor-Roper - editor, Martin Bormann - author. Publisher: Weidenfeld and Nicholson. Place of Publication: London. Publication Year: 1954.
Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Annelie » 25 Jul 2011 17:10

Thankyou Helge.

I can see now why they made it into a book.
It certainly shows how devoted they were to each other.

Strange that this man who writes such lovely letters to his wife was
so disliked by those around him. Especially Eva.
I suppose he is one of those people whom can compartmentalize
tasks and then it doesn't interfer with his personal life like Heydrich.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helge » 25 Jul 2011 18:34

Hi Annelie

In private letters between Martin and Gerda find a match between the private letters of Heinrich (Himmler) and Hedwig (Potthast). I think the public image of these men is very different from the relationship with their wife, lover and children. I think it's a world of two people and no one can access it. They would perhaps seem "hard" to outside but in their family relationships are very different.

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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Annelie » 25 Jul 2011 19:35

They would perhaps seem "hard" to outside but in their family relationships are very different.
I suppose its difficult for me since I like to know people by wysiwyg (what you see is what you get).
Hard to imagine these people whom are good to their children yet have no problems with the deaths
of so many children during WWII. Can not quite get my head around it but I guess one has to accept
its possible.

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Re: Martin Borman & his wife Gerda

Post by Helge » 10 Apr 2012 04:27

(Journal of South Tyrol 10.16.1948) On the front page, with a lot of room: "They live in serene Alto Adige - seven children of Martin Bormann." This is the dolphin of Hitler, died. Two (Helmut and Eve) living in the home ( in the town of Gries)of Baroness Giovanelli; in Merano at the Ladies British study Irme and Eicke, Heinrich lives in St. Leonhard in the family Mutschlechner; Gerda San Teodone of Brunico Bellenzier among farmers; Hardmut is in the city of Perca. The largest has 18 years, called Martin, and lives in Ingolstadt, where he studied theology in a college of Missionaries. Should adopt the priesthood. Gerda's mother had died in hospital at Merano in March 1946. The complex history of the Nazi's family is told in a long article by EP (Enzo Pizzi).
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Eva Ute Bormann daughter of Martin Bormann

Post by Helge » 24 Sep 2012 04:45

21.06.1962: Eva Ute Bormann, * 04.08.1938 daughter of Martin Bormann, with her ​​future husband Gerhard Riedmann, a teacher of literature at the German school in Bozen (Italy), a few hours before the wedding ceremony.

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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Eva Ute Bormann daughter of Martin Bormann

Post by Helge » 24 Sep 2012 05:38

24-year-old Eva Bormann, daughter of Martin Bormann, once Adolf Hitler’s right-hand man, and her fiancé Gerhard Riedmann, pictured in a street of Bolzano, in the Alto Adige (Italian South Tyrol) on June 8, 1962. Miss Bormann is an employee of a Bolzano furniture firm, while Gerhard Riedmann is a German literature professor in the Bolzano High School. Bans for their marriage have been published by the Bolzano City Hall. (AP Photo)
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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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