Is it true that the SS had "Aryan" baby factories?
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Is it true that the SS had "Aryan" baby factories?
This is a topic I have oft wondered about.
Is it true that the German SS had factories where SS men impregnated nordic
women?
If so, what happened to the kids?
What happened to the mothers?
/S/ ReconMarine
Is it true that the German SS had factories where SS men impregnated nordic
women?
If so, what happened to the kids?
What happened to the mothers?
/S/ ReconMarine
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Marcus Wendel wrote:The Lebensborn were no "baby factories".Blackshirt wrote:yes, it was called the lebensborn.
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, Blackshirt, Lebensborn was not an industry that manufactured babies, but that was a program where the "purest" aryan SS officers could only mate with preferably scandinavian women and make the ideal pure offspring, mainly in Norway though.
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Korbius wrote:Marcus Wendel wrote:The Lebensborn were no "baby factories".Blackshirt wrote:yes, it was called the lebensborn.
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, Blackshirt, Lebensborn was not an industry that manufactured babies, but that was a program where the "purest" aryan SS officers could only mate with preferably scandinavian women and make the ideal pure offspring, mainly in Norway though.
Nope, that's wrong also.
Do a search on here and you'll find plenty of discussions on the topic.
I saw a Dateline or 20/20 on it. Pretty interesting stuff, not sure were it was located but I was kinda like a hospital/daycare/school/home for all these ladies that were pregneat or children that were "fathered" by SS, and other high ranking people. The one funny thing I remember about it is their interviewing the now grown up kids that went thru that system and Diane Sawyer (or whoever was interviewing them) is asking them how they turned out and stuff and all u hear is "I'm a engineer." "I'm a Medical Doctor." " I'm a housewife but I was a practicing lawyer." etc etc.
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No.Is it true that the German SS had factories where SS men impregnated nordic women?
The "Lebensborn AG" was a foundation that ran maternity homes where the wives of SS-men could have their children, and where pre- and ante-natal care would be provided.
It was Himmler's brainchild; he reasoned that his SS-mean and their wives would be encouraged to have more children (and thereby increase the size of the German people by reversing the fall in the birth-rate) if the best birthing and childcare facilities were available to them.
However, Himmler also introduced a new and controversial element. He believed that the concept of illegitimacy was counterproductive, since it led to discrimination against children who were otherwise of good German stock and hence militated against his objective of raising the birth-rate of the "racially" best elements within the German people. Thus, he made the Lebensborn facilities available to unmarried women who were bearing children to SS-men, provided that those women were of acceptable "racial" origin.
It was Himmler's decision to make Lebensborn available to selected unmarried mothers that gave rise to the legends of a "breeding program". In fact, it ran counter to National Socialist morality, which was very conventional and prudish. The prim and proper wives of SS-men greatly resented having to share the Lebensborn facilities with "immoral" women who had become pregnant out of wedlock, and treated them with contempt.
Surprisingly, Himmler's view that illegitimacy should not be a cause for discrimination against children appears quite liberal and modern, although he held it within a "racist" context.
I disagree. infact, how could it? it was what defined National Socialism. nothing was in the least 'conventional' about National Socialism, the fact that they were against the conventional right, the class system, old weimar Nationalists, shows this fact clearly.michael mills wrote:In fact, it ran counter to National Socialist morality, which was very conventional and prudish.
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Generally the Nazis did not deviate much--and Himmler, being somewhat prudish like Hitler, was no exception--from the standard ultraconservative military mores. For example, soldiers could be court-martialed for adultery, which is still the case in the U.S. military, especially regarding officers. They didn't have Don't-Ask/Don't-Tell.Nagelfar wrote:I disagree. infact, how could it? it was what defined National Socialism. nothing was in the least 'conventional' about National Socialism, the fact that they were against the conventional right, the class system, old weimar Nationalists, shows this fact clearly.michael mills wrote:In fact, it ran counter to National Socialist morality, which was very conventional and prudish.
My Granfather and Grandmother were LebensbornDavey Boy wrote:Korbius wrote:Marcus Wendel wrote:The Lebensborn were no "baby factories".Blackshirt wrote:yes, it was called the lebensborn.
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, Blackshirt, Lebensborn was not an industry that manufactured babies, but that was a program where the "purest" aryan SS officers could only mate with preferably scandinavian women and make the ideal pure offspring, mainly in Norway though.
Nope, that's wrong also.
Do a search on here and you'll find plenty of discussions on the topic.
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