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Streicher: wife and son

Post by Helge » 03 Jun 2012 04:57

On April 19, 2011 Ladicplum, friend of the forum, found a photograph of Adele Streicher (very rare), second wife of Julius Streicher. Today I add one other rare photos. To Elmar Streicher. He goes to visit his father in prison at Nuremberg

Photo 1: source: 30/09/1946 published by British Pathè
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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by J. Duncan » 03 Jun 2012 09:40

I believe there is a photo of either Elmar or Lothar in the old book "The Guest House" which is about the dwelling which was used to confine the Nuremberg witnesses. Either one or both of Streicher's sons collaborated in some of their father's work with Der Stürmer or other publications. They were children of Streicher's first mariage.

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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by Helge » 03 Jun 2012 09:49

J. Duncan wrote:I believe there is a photo of either Elmar or Lothar in the old book "The Guest House" which is about the dwelling which was used to confine the Nuremberg witnesses. Either one or both of Streicher's sons collaborated in some of their father's work with Der Stürmer or other publications. They were children of Streicher's first mariage.

In 1913 Streicher married Kunigunde Roth: Lothar's first child was born in 1915 and later became a columnist of Der Stürmer, the second son, Elmar, was born in 1918. Duncan you have a picture of Lothar?
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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by J. Duncan » 03 Jun 2012 10:08

Sorry Helge, I do not. I just remembered that the book of memoirs by Ingeborg Kalnoky ("The Guest House") had a photo of one of the sons in the photo section but I'm pretty sure it was Elmar...he looks just like the man in your photo above, but he is wearing a tyrolean hat and has a "5 o'clock shadow" beard. Looking at Elmar above, it's amazing how much he looks like one of the Jewish caricatures often depicted in the Fips cartoons. There were many rumors at the time that Streicher was Jewish. Even Hanfstaengl writes this in his memoirs "Unheard Witness". It's the old theory stemming from Otto Weininger's book "Sex and Character" that "Jews make the best anti-semites". The same things were said about Richard Wagner. It is a strange paradox in the Nazi mentality which chalked everything up to a materialist biologism.

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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by Helge » 19 Oct 2012 08:09

Testimony of Adele Streicher at Nuremberg


[The witness strings took the stand.]

THE PRESIDENT: Will you state your full name?

WITNESS ADELE STRINGS: Adele Streicher, born Tappe.

THE PRESIDENT: Will you repeat this oath:

I swear to God, the Almighty and Omniscient, that I will speak the pure truth and will withhold and add nothing.

[The witness repeated the oath.]

THE PRESIDENT: You may sit down.

MARX: You are a born Tappe and are born in Magdeburg?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes.

MARX: Were you a member of the Nazi party, or womanhood?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes.

MARX: When did you become a secretary at Streicher? And how long you have been employed as such?

ADELE STRINGS: I was born on 7 1940 June the Secretary of Julius Streicher and remained in that office until the war ended.

MARX: So you were constantly during this period in his yard?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes, I was always around him.

MARX: Did you have to do and all correspondence to Mr. Strider?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes.

MARX: What this correspondence was the main thing?

ADELE STRINGS:.'s Mainly of letters to his sons, relatives

MARX: What has Streicher employed during this period of five years?

ADELE STRINGS: Julius Streicher has dealt mainly with physical work, that is, with agricultural and horticultural work. Occasionally, he has written articles for the "Forward".

MARX: Did he ever in these five years to leave the court, and he was once a long time away from the court?

ADELE STRINGS: Julius Streicher in the first years of his stay there, the court did not, then leave now and then only to neighborly visits. The maximum duration of his absence was not all day and not a single night.

MARX: Do you know anything of it known to persons of the party were not allowed to visit Mr. Strider?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes, there was such a ban.

MARX: What do you know?

ADELE STRINGS: From conversations. But then I experienced when Dr. Goebbels visited the court that Julius Streicher said to him: "Doctor, you dare me to her? Do not you know that there is a ban on the party leadership to visit me? "

MARX: When was the visit of Dr. Ley and Dr. Goebbels?

ADELE STRINGS: Dr. Ley came on 7 May on the 1944 court. The visit took place on 4 Goebbels June 1944.

MARX: Please tell us which character wore these visits and what was the subject of discussion.

ADELE STRINGS: Both visits wore more unofficial character. Dr. Ley asked mainly by personal endure Julius Streicher. Political issues have not been addressed. Ley said merely: "Strings, the guide is waiting for you."

MARX: And what Streicher said that?

ADELE STRINGS: Julius Streicher told him that he had grown accustomed to his loneliness that he felt happy as a farmer. Ley should tell the leaders he had strings, no desires. During the visit, Dr. Goebbels the topic of conversation was mainly the reason why Julius Streicher had been on leave from his position as Gauleiter. Dr. Goebbels argued Julius Streicher had to return to the circle of old comrades again. But he gave him the same answer. "Tell the leader, I have no wish"

MARX: Were you present at these discussions always?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes.

MARX: Formed in these talks is not the Jewish question, one topic of conversation?

ADELE STRINGS: No, on the Jewish question was not discussed.

MARX: Did not talk about events in the eastern or in the concentration camps?

ADELE STRINGS: No, that we are no longer come.

MARX: language strings not to you about his thoughts that he wanted to bring in articles in the "Forward" to express, and there was also talked about how he thought the solution to this problem of the Jewish question?

ADELE STRINGS: From any conversation with Julius Streicher, I could see with certainty that he is the solution to the Jewish question not covered by measures of violence, but sought an emigration of the Jews of Europe and their settlement outside Europe.

MARX: Streicher as with leaders of the party or state in writing connection?

ADELE STRINGS: No, either personally or in writing was such a connection.

MARX: I'll give you now have various names from which you want to give me, if there was connection: Himmler, Heydrich, Bormann and other leading men of the police, or the SS or the Gestapo.

ADELE STRINGS: No, all of these figures I know nothing. With the exception of a letter from Mr. Himmler was never post.

MARX: What was the reason for this letter?

ADELE STRINGS: The letter of Mr. Himmler, he complained that the Pleikershof employed on the French prisoners of war were treated too well.

MARX: What was the treatment of prisoners of war and foreign civilian workers on the farm?

ADELE STRINGS: The Pleikershof eight French prisoners of war, a Pole and a Slovenian girl were busy. They were all treated well and very human. Each handout that asked Julius Streicher personally any work which he himself was anschaffte, especially rewarded by him with cigarette butts, pastries, fruit, or even cash rewards. With some of the French over the years such a cordial relationship was formed that they insured with her even tearful farewell, Julius Streicher to visit with their families after the war.

MARX: Well, Streicher was not of these mass executions in the East, finally reached a credible him appearing knowledge?

ADELE STRINGS: I think it was in 1944, when he learned about it through Swiss newspapers. Officially, we have never received notice of them.

MARX: But it is contended that he should have obtained earlier knowledge.

ADELE STRINGS: Yes.

MARX: Since you know nothing about?

ADELE STRINGS: I only know about the Swiss newspapers.

MARX: Well. They have even brought the conversation to the fact that you ninth in Magdeburg, on the night of to 10 November 1938, had witnessed the demonstrations against Jews, and that you would have found it the greatest horror. Is that correct?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes, I told them, and that is that I was shocked when they carried out this action in Magdeburg. At that time, very excited to Julius Streicher during that conversation and told me: "Such nonsense has made it at Nuremberg" This is not anti-Semitism, which was a huge stupidity..

MARX: Is it true that Streicher for financial activities of the publisher is very little interest and imputed this matter to the respective Head of Publishing?

ADELE STRINGS: Julius Streicher has taken care of money matters at all never, neither in the house nor the publisher. It happened again and again, that the gentlemen of the publisher were disappointed when they wanted to report on the annual balance sheets and Julius Streicher told them: "Let me with business in peace. It is about very different things than money. "

MARX: What are then the household was denied?

ADELE STRINGS: I got a month thousand Reichsmarks from the publisher. Of which the household is denied made gifts and so on.

MARX: Is there something you know that he should have received shares, which were acquired on dirty print against a Jewish banker to go?

ADELE STRINGS: That is absolutely impossible. I think this is absolutely impossible that Julius Streicher shares has acquired in this way. I do not even know he knows how to look like a stock.

MARX: Did you tell them anything?

ADELE STRINGS: I just heard that he has never received shares.

MARX: How did it happen that you have in April 1945 came to a marriage with the accused or arrived? Did you understand the question?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes. Julius Streicher wanted to participate in the fighting in Nuremberg. I wanted to go with him, because he gave me his name before. We wanted to die together.

MARX: You are then away with him from Pleikershof and went where?

ADELE STRINGS: We were originally going to Nuremberg, which was rejected for fear of competence difficulties. So we drove to Munich. In Munich, we were referred, Passau. Passau sent us to Berchtesgaden. Berchtesgaden sent us to Kitzbühel.

MARX: How was it that originally passed the intention to work together to go to his death, was not it put into practice? What made him do it?

ADELE STRINGS: A conversation with three young soldiers was the occasion of it.

MARX: And what was that? I am now almost done, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: I ​​do not think you should go on it, Dr. Marx.

MARX: Well, I can give up the question. Now the question: Is it true that Herr Streicher its respective publishing director issued a written power of attorney, which they could have the money as they saw fit?

ADELE STRINGS: Yes, Julius Streicher turned from general powers of attorney and gave the respective publishing director his full confidence, without any restriction.

MARX: Mr. President, I have no further questions.

THE PRESIDENT: Do a defender to ask questions?

Wants the prosecution to ask questions?

SIR DAVID MAXWELL-FYFE: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Then the witness can retire and the Court adjourned until tomorrow morning, 9.30 clock.

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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by Helge » 19 Oct 2012 08:18

For those interested this is useful.

This is the cover to a booklet of letters from Streicher to his second wife, Adele, written while he was imprisoned during the Nuremberg trials.
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Post by Helge » 24 Jun 2014 20:57

50 years ago, in November 1945, the trial of the major war criminals of the Nazi system was opened in Nuremberg. In addition to the Nazi leaders from politics, business and the military also Gauleiter of Franconia Julius Streicher was accused of anti-Semitic incitement. Streicher was the editor of the anti-Jewish, pornographic smearsheet "Der Stürmer".
The authors spoke with Streicher's son Lothar, with domestics of the family as well as observers of the military court process in Nuremberg and mounted the interviews with historical material to a revealing portrait of the "Franken leader".

http://vimeo.com/57370281
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Post by J. Duncan » 24 Jun 2014 23:25

Amazing find Helge! The video features private family photos of Streicher when he was a young man (looks like he was in his early 20's)....he had a full head of hair at that time and didn't shave it.
Unfortunately, I cannot understand German language, so I'm missing out on the dialogue.
What (if anything) does Lothar disclose about the family (what is he saying while looking at the private family photos)?
I was surprised to learn that Streicher had Jewish ancestors. This is disclosed in the book "The Limits of Hitler's Power" by Edward M. Peterson, who studied the dossiers, files, and documents of the NSDAP and SS. Some of these papers found their way into the hands of Dr. Benno Martin.

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Post by J. Duncan » 26 Jun 2014 09:35

Speaking of Peterson, I had misread the relations between Streicher and Dr. Benno Martin. I thought Streicher hated him when in fact they were on good terms. It was the preceding SS Polizeiführer whom Streicher had threatened to thrash with his whip.
The book is really good as far as a detailed chronicle of Streicher's administration in the Gau Franken and the city of Nuremberg.
An entire chapter is devoted to it. He called Streicher a walking chaos.

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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by Helge » 30 Jun 2014 03:45

This photo appeared on ebay. Name of Photo: Lothar STREICHER Nazi PRINCE AUGUST, wife Olla. Press Photo. I'm not sure it's Lothar and his wife Olla
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Post by Helge » 03 Jul 2014 17:50

Max Streicher, the brother of Julius Streicher.

Max Streicher is the founder of Streicher Gruppe.
http://www.streicher.de/de/mainmenu/streicher-gruppe/

Source: Jubilaeumsheft_100_Jahre.pdf (Jubilaeumsheft:100 Jahre - Streicher Perspektiven)
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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by Michael Miller » 03 Jul 2014 22:17

J. Duncan~

At least under interrogation, Dr. Martin doesn't seem to have had many- if any- kind words about Streicher. on 19.10.1945, he spoke at length on the subject of the Gauleiter’s leadership style and personality:

“… You have to realize that Streicher was the most powerful man in Franconia, irrespective of whether he was Gauleiter or not, he was the strongest man merely because of the strength of his name, Julius Streicher. Any appointment of Streicher to a Gauleiter would only have had a merely formal meaning. The Gauleiter governed Franconia since 1922 and terrorized Franconia since 1933. Any nomination to any official position would only be a formal one…
… Streicher interfered into everything on the basis of his personality, irrespective of whether he had a legal right to do so or not. He did that on the basis of his friendship with the Fuehrer and as the strongest political man in Franconia…
… He very much concerned himself in judicial processes, and he often entered the court processes during court and influenced the decisions of them… he had his Party comrades everywhere. He had people that held offices [in governmental offices, as distinct from his Gauleitung] that talked to him. The Gauleitung was a huge organization… in every one of [the Gauleitung’s subordinate] organizations he had different competent people sitting there who reported to him. The Gauleiter had advisors for every department of the State. He had advisors for nourishment; he had advisors for law; and he had advisors for transportation and for everything that you may mention… He received information from everywhere. He received information from his representatives. He also received information from his various mistresses, from dancers of the ballet, and chorus girls. If some official told him that something was happening somewhere, he concerned himself with it…
… His office was in the Gauleitung at Schlageter Platz 3, but he worked much at home in his garden, too. Depending on the degree of his madness at any particular moment, he would perhaps also sit down in a public inn and work there….
… [E]very Gauleiter in Germany has functioned in a bigger or lesser degree. It was only double felt in the case of Streicher, firstly, because no doubt he was the strongest Gauleiter in Germany, and, secondly, because it could never be counted on what he would do in his madness, in his change of moods.” (Interrogation Records Prepared for War Crimes Proceedings at Nuernberg, 1945-1947/OCCPAC Interrogation Transcripts And Related Records: Martin, Benno Franz Theodor; Publication Number M1270, Record Group RG238)

And on 19. or 20.10.1945:

“At that time in November 1938 the SA Obergruppenfuehrer Obernitz had all Jewish shops looted and destroyed and also ordered to burn all synagogues. I only know all that from what I have been told, because I only came back to Nurnberg at night. Then I was told that all SA Obergruppenfuehrers had supposedly received the order from Munich from Goebbels, where it was said that synagogues were to be burned, and in this order apparently the authority was contained that also shops can be looted and destroyed. Obernitz went into the flat of Streicher during this night before he started the action with his SA. Streicher was in his bed. Obernitz told him that Goebbels had given him the order or the permission for that action to be carried through. Streicher was supposedly to have answered to that, ‘This is quite all right with me,’ and then he turned around to the other side and carried on sleeping…. I don’t know… any more [who told me that]… [It was] quite possibl[y Obernitz].’”
[Colonel Brundage: “Streicher says that when he was told by Obernitz that he told him he was opposed to any such action.”]
“If Streicher had said that he was against it, it might be that he was against this procedure for the moment because he did not consider the time right for such a procedure to be adopted. Only as far as the time of the procedure was concerned, but I can assure you that in principle Streicher was fully in agreement with any such action. I can tell you that from the basis of my experience of the personality of Streicher…. If Streicher was opposed to this action, Obernitz would not have carried it through….
…. the whole anti-Semitic program would not have gone as far as it did unless Streicher’s anti-Semitic propaganda had not prepared the ground for twenty years. Streicher’s blood guilt does not consist of particular cases but his guilt consists of having been the pathmaker for the entire anti-Semitic program.” (Interrogation Records Prepared for War Crimes Proceedings at Nuernberg, 1945-1947/OCCPAC Interrogation Transcripts And Related Records: Martin, Benno Franz Theodor; Publication Number M1270, Record Group RG238)

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Re: Streicher: wife and son

Post by J. Duncan » 04 Jul 2014 09:48

Mike
That's interesting. Sheds a lot of light on Streicher and how he basically ruled as a dictator in his own sphere of influence.
Peterson (from his book) does not say whether or not Benno Martin "liked" Streicher but only that his job was of a more diplomatic nature in "handling" Streicher and his colleagues - men who were used to having their own way and did not want an outsider to interfere with what they were doing. Peterson says that Martin was placed there because, from Streicher's standpoint, he was a more agreeable man to work with than his predessor. It was a matter of Streicher appealing to Himmler that if he had to have an SS Polizeifuhrer in his Gau, then he preferred to have Dr. Martin there. Martin was thus able to keep an eye on this unruly circle at the behest of his boss Himmler. Martin had to deal with some very disreputable and independent characters and of course he was a first-hand witness to their corruptive practices. Somehow they all got along, but it was Dr. Martin's diplomatic finesse that allowed for this to happen. From the impression Peterson makes, Martin was basically a baby-sitter, trying to steer the Streicher group towards a less chaotic and scandalous course. The book does a better job of explaining his role there than I can, which gets quite complex in his chapter on Nuremberg, showcasing some of the less known personalities of the Streicher group such as Holz and some unfortunate who committed suicide through the intimidation of his boss (Streicher) when he faced corruption charges from the Goering investigations.

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Post by kduffin » 13 Jun 2016 22:47

Hi Helge! I'm a reporter working with a public radio show called This American Life. Curious if you know whether those letters from Julius Streicher to his wife Adele were ever translated / published? I'd love to read them for a story I'm working on! My email address is karen@thislife.org if you do have any tips for if or where I might be able to find them. Thanks so much!

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Post by Helge » 29 Aug 2017 23:52

These are the exact dates of birth of Julius Streicher's children:

Lothar: January 2, 1915

Elmar: March 16, 1918
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