Elfriede Dinger wife of Ernst Gennat

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Friederike Wieking is shown in Berlin phone books 1939, 1940 and 1941
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Peter wrote:
13 Jan 2023, 15:07
Margarete Emma Laufer (born 27 Nov 1898) married Gustav Bernhard Henne on 22 Sep1923 at Hanau/Hessen, she died 6 April 1959 in Mannheim.
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Post by Peter » 06 Feb 2023, 18:12

some good information here

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quote Heimatschuss
I think the story about the disgruntled mistress that caused Nebe's death has to be corrected a bit. The woman who gave Nebe's whereabouts to the Gestapo was Adelheid (or Adelheit?) Gobbin, a female officer of the Berlin police. Here is a short biography of her:


Adelheid Gobbin

born Dec.17th, 1896 in Bischweiler (Alsace), her father was a general (probably the later Generalmajor Paul Gobbin (1864-1935))
Nurse training, works in welfare and social crime prevention.
1926 joins Berlin police (one of the first police women there)
1927 transferred to female CID of Berlin police
1929 divorced, acquaintance with Arthur Nebe
1932 promoted to Kriminalkommissarin (i.e. jumps from career track of middle service officials to career track of elevated service officials)
until 1933 member of SPD (Social Democats Party)
after 1933 warns communists and Jews about imminent police actions
1937 head of desk KJ M III 2 (sex offences) of the female CID
25.07.1944 interrogated by Gestapo about General Fellgiebel, a relative of hers.
End of July 1944 Nebe contacts Gobbin and asks for a hiding place. Gobbin first takes him to her apartment, then arranges Nebe's hide in Motzenmühle (on Lake Motzen, south of Berlin) with the Frick family.
January 1945 interrogated again by the Gestapo. Gestapo investigator 'Lietzenberger' (probably Stubaf Willy Litzenberg) threatens to shoot her, her mother and her sister if she doesn't reveal Nebe's place. Gobbin's resistance collapses and she gives the place away. After Nebe's arrest she's released.
March 1945 Nebe and Walter Frick are executed, Gobbin suffers a nervous breakdown and is out of office till the end of the war
May 1945 booked by Soviet authorities to command the female CID in Berlin starting June 1st, 1945
May 30th, 1945 arrested by Soviet authorities, transferred to special camp no. 7 Weesow
August 1945 transferred to special camp no. 6 Frankfurt/Oder
September 1945 transferred to special camp Jamlitz
March 1947 transferred to special camp No. 1 Mühlberg
January 19th, 1950 released from special camp Buchenwald
July-September 1950 denazified in West-Berlin
1953 - 1957 Commissar with the female CID in West-Berlin
August 1963 dies in West-Berlin.

At age 47 Gobbin was a bit beyond the classic mistress age and Nebe would have been very dumb to give an actual mistress his address. That's one of the first places the Gestapo would have looked for it. Nebe knew enough about police tactics and the ways of the Gestapo not to do so. I think that Gobbin's version of the events is at least as believable as the one you find in a number of books and which is presumably based on the narrations of the Gestapo investigators.


Sources:

Andreas Weigelt
"Umschulungslager existieren nicht". Zur Geschichte des sowjetischen Speziallagers Nr. 6 in Jamlitz 1945 - 1947
Brandenburgische Historische Hefte Nr. 16,
Hersausgeber: Brandenburgische Landeszentrale für politische Bildung, Postdam, 2001
Online version http://www.politische-bildung-brandenbu ... slager.pdf
pp.153-154, photo also from there


Susanna Swoboda-Riecken
Berufliche Sozialisation und Rollenverständnis der Geschlechter in der Gegenwart. Dargestellt am Beispiel der Frauen in der Schutzpolizei.
Ph.D. thesis, University of Kiel, 2001
http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?i ... 579423.pdf
(pp.56-80 give background info the historical development of police women in Germany, esp.in the Prussian police.)

http://web.genealogie.free.fr/Les_milit ... ajor/G.htm
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