Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

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Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Helly Angel » 06 Jul 2020 18:08

In a very serious and well know store in Germany are sailing a postcard with AH, Heinrich Hoffmann, Wilhelm Brückner (back to the camera), another guy (maybe Otto Dietrich) and two women and they says one of them is Eva Braun... is an original postcard from III Reich times... What do you think?
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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Jul 2020 18:36

Helly,

to me, this a printing from one of the many albums and brochures printed by Heinrich Hoffmann.
Hoffmann earned a lot of money with his so-called "private" photos, we all know that.

We talked about another photo with an imprint on the back, now there is another so called "photo".
Sorry, to me, this is a printing from one of the many Hoffmann publications, tens of thousands of times reproduced.

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P.S. The so called "Militaria Dealers", not only here in germany, they try to make a fortune out of any photo, they can get their
hands on, most of the stuff is nothing, the rare photos still come from privately owned origin, and these photos are rare.
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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Helly Angel » 06 Jul 2020 18:49

Thank you Hans for your lines. Look the back side... TBH I never had seen this picture, even she look likes but her hair is too much dark... I have strong doubts about a Postcard from the times of the Reich with Eva.
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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Jul 2020 19:09

Helly,

someone, probably a german postcard dealer wrote 68,- (Probably former Deutsche Mark) on the backside,
a somewhat asking price.

Everything about "Eva Braun" may be expensive, this card , without knowing the origin, the "originality",
I would value the card for less than 5,- Euro, if at all.

Sorry

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P.S. I collect B/W postcards from Dame "Brigitte Bardot" , the very early stuff from the 1950s, the 1960s.
Some of the cards very rare stuff, normally I find the postcards on german and french flea markets, less than 30,- Euro per card... 8-)

A few of these cards were sold on auctions for more than 500,- Euro, or more, who cares about Eva Braun anymore?
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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Helly Angel » 07 Jul 2020 06:05

Thank you Hans!! You are right!

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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Sid Guttridge » 07 Jul 2020 21:20

My impression was that the existence of Eva Braun was virtually unknown outside Hitler's personal circle.

It therefore seems highly unlikely that she would be name checked on a post card at the time.

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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Aditeppichfresser » 08 Jul 2020 01:21

hi! Eva Braun is not pictured here, she wouldn't have been pictured in any public photographs, or mentioned. The fact that Hitler even kept her from meeting the Göring's says a lot. Cool print none the less!

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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Br. James » 08 Jul 2020 14:38

Now that's something I wasn't aware of: "...Hitler even kept [EB] from meeting the Goerings...!" The Goerings' house on the Obersalzberg was literally across the street from the Berghof and EB spent much time at the Berghof, even when Hitler was absent, so I wonder how Hitler managed this? What is the source of this information?

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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Geoff Walden » 08 Jul 2020 17:00

This is an interesting postcard. It is not a Hoffmann postcard - it was published by Hans Huber, who did a lot of postcards of the Berchtesgaden area (Huber had a local office as well as one in Munich). Let me say what can be said for sure, before I speculate on the woman's identification. This is an early 1930s view - likely 1933 or 1934 - due to the use of the title "Unser Reichskanzler." This title was popularly used right after Hitler became Chancellor in 1933. The photo was taken at the Hochlenzer guesthouse on the Obersalzberg. This was a favorite destination for Hitler's daily walks when he was living in Haus Wachenfeld, before security concerns put an end to his long rambles in the area. The woman beside Hoffmann was his wife Erna, and I agree with Helly that the man on the other side of Hoffmann certainly looks like Otto Dietrich, especially in this other view taken at the same time (sorry, I have no better copy of this, and don't know the source).
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Note that this photo indicates that the Huber photo may have been a composite view, with the subjects superimposed on the background view of Watzmann and the valley, which view is certainly seen from right there anyway.

My opinion is that the woman in question could be Eva Braun. She just isn't seen in enough detail in either of these photos for me to say for sure. Even though she was kept secret from the public, she did travel rather openly with Hitler, as a member of the entourage of secretaries and support staff. I agree that it would be unusual to see her in a public photo sitting next to Hitler - she was cropped out of such photos that Hoffmann published - but again, this was not a Hoffmann photo. We can be sure that Huber (or his photographer) did not know who EB was ... he probably didn't know who Erna Hoffmann was either. So a photographer not from Hoffmann's company might have caught a candid shot of AH and EB together, and published it, having no idea who she was.
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Re: Eva Braun in a postcard? Original?

Post by Hans1906 » 10 Jul 2020 11:52

Good afternoon,

and thanks to Geoff Walden, for solving another riddle...

With the photographs from the circle of the photographer Heinrich Hoffmann, one has to deal as a collector of old photographs, this is not to be missed.

And again, and again photos from the circle of Hoffmann and his former employees will appear, probably for many years to come...

Strange, thinking about the "Tausendjährige Reich".

Whatever this is good for.

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