Women awarded the Iron Cross

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by ClareMulley » 09 Jun 2015 11:16

Can any one confirm when, and for what, nurse Johanna Krüger received her Iron Cross II during WWI please? Thank you!

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by ClareMulley » 10 Jun 2015 12:49

Also - who was the woman dressed as a male soldier who was reputedly awarded the EK around 1813?

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by peeved » 10 Jun 2015 13:52

ClareMulley wrote:Also - who was the woman dressed as a male soldier who was reputedly awarded the EK around 1813?
At least Friederike Krüger according to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friederike_Kr%C3%BCger Was also promoted to NCO.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by ClareMulley » 10 Jun 2015 18:47

Thank you very much indeed Markus, that is really helpful. I think the WWI nurse was Lonny Hertha von Versen: http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-first- ... 61705.html
Thank you again. Clare

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Helge » 12 Dec 2015 00:03

Anna Großherzogin von Carius. 18 June 1901 - 17 January 1945

Anna Großherzogin von Carius was killed during an Allied bombing raid on Cherbourg on 17 January 1945.
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Heimatschuss » 12 Dec 2015 00:54

Hello Helge,

could you please check the seriousness of your source (https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... k/id=65841) again? The photo clearly shows IC recipient Hanny Weber and has been taken from here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 98#p999498.

There's no kind of nobility title resembling 'Grand Duke of Carius' anywhere in Germany or Austria and I very much doubt you'll find it somewhere on the rest of this planet.

And why on Earth should the Allies have bombed Cherbourg in January 1945? They'd conquered the town in June 1944. It was one of their supply harbours in continental Europe since then.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Vikki » 24 Jun 2016 01:36

I've split a post by jared53402 concerning female awards of the Kriegsverdienstkreuz (War Merit Cross) to a new thread at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p2022024.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Helge » 29 Dec 2016 10:04

Weltkrieg, Auszeichnung von Schwestern des DRK mit dem Eisernen Kreuz 2. Klasse, v.l. DRK - Generaloberin Luise von Oertzen, Schwestern Elfriede Wnuk, Marga Droste, der geschäftsführende Präsident des DRK Ernst-Robert Grawitz in Berlin.
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by hucks216 » 29 Dec 2016 10:42

Heimatschuss wrote:Hello,

here's a close-up of Ilse Schulz. The photo was taken during a speech Goebbels held at Heidelberg University on July 9th, 1943. According to the photo caption Schulz was a student at Heidelberg by then.

Ilse Schulz.jpgSource:
http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl
Picture No.: 3027

The award document for her is shown at http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5 ... 6#msg51766. The thread also contains a lot of other useful material (in German) on female IC recipients.
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The citations and photo album for Ilse Schulz are for sale at eMedals (not cheap by any means though). Interestingly, the unit designation and date on the EK citation differ from that previously shown.

https://www.emedals.com/europe/germany/ ... lse-schulz
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by j keenan » 29 Dec 2016 22:46

I would personally say the eMedals item is a put together by someone other than Ilse Schulz, seen quite a few so called docs and medals for sale on that site which are complete junk.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Stephan » 04 Feb 2017 12:44

Heimatschuss wrote: And why on Earth should the Allies have bombed Cherbourg in January 1945? They'd conquered the town in June 1944. It was one of their supply harbours in continental Europe since then.

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That said, there were a couple of occupied french ports, whom were left behind belegeured, and taken in may(?!) 1945. The french army were allowed to do some brilliancies... I suspect some of them even capitulated at the overall capitualation...
So, someone dying in a big french port because of allied bombings, is fully possible.

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