Women awarded the Iron Cross

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Matt Gibbs » 21 Aug 2010 08:27

Haven't visited this topic for a little while. Really excellent results, and some superb nurses photos.
Next time I am at the London Newspaper archive I will have a look through the late war 12 Uhr Blatt again and see if there is any more mentions of womens awards. Many thanks for sharing the above links folks. :)

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Chirapran » 29 Aug 2010 11:19

Ich habe heute Ihren Beitrag über meine Großmutter gefunden.
Meine Mutter war sehr aufgeregt dass auch der Lebenslauf hier drin ist.
Meine Großmutter war eine sehr starke und trotzallem sehr humorvolle Frau.
Sie konnte einem immer mut machen egal in welcher Situation man war.

Viele Grüße,
Chirapran Susanna Na Ranong
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Heimatschuss » 29 Aug 2010 16:19

Guten Tag Frau Na Ranong,
Hello Miss Na Ranong,

:welcome:
Chirapran wrote:Ich habe heute Ihren Beitrag über meine Großmutter gefunden.
Meine Mutter war sehr aufgeregt dass auch der Lebenslauf hier drin ist.
Meine Großmutter war eine sehr starke und trotzallem sehr humorvolle Frau.
Sie konnte einem immer mut machen egal in welcher Situation man war.

Viele Grüße,
Chirapran Susanna Na Ranong
Elmshorn
Ich werde Ihren Beitrag mal ins Englische übersetzen, damit die anderen auch mitlesen können (Forumregel):
I'll translate your posting into English so the others here can read it too (forum rules):

Today I've found your contribution about my grandmother.
My mother was very excited/upset [hope it's option 1 :) ] that her CV is here also.
My grandmother was a very strong woman full of humour despite everything.
She could always encourage one no matter in what situation you were.

Many greetings
Chirapran Susanna Na Ranong
Elmshorn

Many thanks that you liked our little research but without the chaps here http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5 ... 1#msg44931 we would still be in the dark about your grandmother's true name.

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Torsten

[Entschuldigen Sie bitte, daß ich in der Eile Ihren Familiennamen in der englischen Version anfangs falsch geschrieben habe. Soll nicht wieder vorkommen :oops: .]
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Chirapran » 29 Aug 2010 21:05

My grandmother was Dr.med. Maria Elisabeth Potrz.
The 1st option is was right. My mother was very excited.
I am still missing my grandmother!!!
A friend of my grandmother is still living. She was together with her during the time in Breslau and after the war. I am visiting her once a month and she often tells me about the time then. It was a very hard time!!!

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Chirapran Susanna Na Ranong

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Chirapran » 29 Aug 2010 22:02

Sorry, correction! Of cause my grandmother's name is Dr.med. Maria Ursula Potrz.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by ChristopherPerrien » 29 Aug 2010 22:40

Chirapran wrote:I am still missing my grandmother!!!
Aren't we all? My two grand-mothers were the best people I've ever met.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Heimatschuss » 04 Mar 2011 21:33

Hello,

I've found some news on IC recipient Eva Halm. She was one of the defendants in a communist show trial held in East-Berlin in Jan. 1956. In that trial Halm was sentenced to life-time imprisonment for alleged espionage and sabotage on behalf of the US. Eva Halm already died in the prison hospital at Leipzig-Kleinmeusdorf in September 1956. The verdict contains a short CV of Halm. It's quoted in Marxen & Werle (2007, p.411).

I've posted the relevant excerpts (in German) already here http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5 ... 5#msg53975
but here's a synopsis avoiding the sometimes difficult to translate legal phrases.


Eva Halm

1922: Born in B.[reslau?] to a lower middle-class family
1938: Finishes junior high school in Breslau
1938 - 1944: Works for the Reichsbahn as Reichsbahngehilfin, later as a shorthand secretary
Gains her high school degree in evening classes during that time.
June 1944: Conscripted by the Heereszeugamt (Army depot) in Breslau as civilian clerk. Works as driver.
Jan/Feb 1945: Takes part in the evacuation of Army files from Brieg. IC was bestowed for that.
(Unlike other female recipients her case wasn't announced in the press.)
Feb 1945: In the Breslau pocket
Mar 1945: Secretary in a Wehrmacht unit in Breslau-Grüneiche.
Oct 1945: Deported by the Polish occupation authorities to the Soviet occupation zone.
Oct 1945 - Sept 1946: Lives in Greiz and lives from welfare due to illness
Feb 1946: Joins Communist Part (KPD)
Sept 1946: Moves to her parents in Lauenburg (County Oberbarnim) and works on their farm.
1946 - 1955: Works in a total of 10 positions in 4 different places, mostly secretarial and in the Potsdam area
Summer 1950 - 1955: (Allegedly) a US spy
Jun 13, 1955: Arrested
Jan 24-27, 1956: (Show) trial before the Supreme Court in East-Berlin, sentenced to life.
Sept 12, 1956 died in Leipzig-Kleinmeusdorf (prison hospital)

References:

Marxen, Klaus; Werle, Gerhard (Hrsg.)
Strafjustiz und DDR-Unrecht. Dokumentation
Band 5, Teil 1: Rechtsbeugung
(bearbeitet von Gerhard Werle, Klaus Marxen, Boris Burghardt, Ute Hohoff, Petra Schäfter)
Verlag W. de Gruyter; Berlin; 2007; p.351 - 489


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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Heimatschuss » 05 Mar 2011 19:08

Hello,

more stuff. The following list of female recipients of the Iron Cross comes from the book Womanlist by Marjorie Weiser and Jean Arbeiter, p.443.
IC recipients - Womanlist.jpg
Several old acquaintances, but anyone who has ever heard of Lieselotte Maaseen (Maaßen?), Therese H. and Maria Stolle? I've already tried to google them but to no avail.

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Marjorie P.K Weiser; Jean S. Arbeiter
Womanlist
Atheneum; New York; 1981

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by redcap » 12 Mar 2011 21:35

As a total newcomer to this website, which, whilst browsing through, I find it extremely intresting and varied.
My out query/question is:- does anybody out there, have any information about a female winner of the I.C. (2?). A Red Cross nurse L. HENSEL who I believe was my auntie. Many Thanks :roll: :milwink:

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by peeved » 12 Mar 2011 22:32

According to http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5833.50;wap2 Liselotte Hensel was awarded the EK II for her actions during the Hamburg fire-bombings in August 1943. Based on the link there should be a photo of her in Auszeichnungen des Deutschen Reiches by Kurt K. Klietmann.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Heimatschuss » 24 Oct 2011 10:28

Hello,

here's a close-up of Ilse Schulz. The photo was taken during a speech Goebbels held at Heidelberg University on July 9th, 1943. According to the photo caption Schulz was a student at Heidelberg by then.
Ilse Schulz.jpg
Source:
http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl
Picture No.: 3027

The award document for her is shown at http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5 ... 6#msg51766. The thread also contains a lot of other useful material (in German) on female IC recipients.
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Helge » 24 Oct 2011 10:57

Articles for EK-ceremony to Marga Droste 1 December 1942

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by portico » 24 Oct 2011 23:34

I've reviewed the photographs which raises a question.

Would a DRK Nurse wear the EK on her blue and white striped dress?

Dan

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by Heimatschuss » 09 Jan 2012 21:31

Hello,

there's news of another nurse who received the Iron Cross here
http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5 ... 9#msg56699
http://forum.balsi.de/index.php?topic=5 ... 3#msg56833

Lieselotte Maaßen (alternative spelling Maahsen) worked as a nurse in the hospital for lightly wounded of the 16th Panzergrenadier-Division in Pjatichatki (Ukraine) in October 1943. When Soviet forces achieved a breaktrough and headed for the industrial centre of Krivoj Rog the hospital which lay in the course of their advance was in danger of being overrun.

The sick and wounded were transported to Pjatichatki train station where they were under the care of Lieselotte Maaßen. Only when Soviet units reached the suburbs of Pjatichatki someone managed to stop a freight train that was about to leave Pjatichatki. While the station was already under artillery fire Maaßen loaded the wounded into the box cars and was the last to climb onto the train when it left. On the route further west she stopped at another train station and picked up further wounded that otherwise would have fallen into Soviet hands.

For these actions Maaßen was decorated with the IC II on Dec 14, 1943.

This must the same woman mentioned in my posting above from March 5, 2011 though her name there was spelled 'Maaseen'.

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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Post by chris44 » 08 Jun 2012 22:45

here a pic of EK II winner Ottilie Stephan
source :
Berliner Illustrierte Zeitung
54.Jahrgang
Nr.9, 4.März 1945
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