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Russian Army Ranks

Post by opahaase » 09 Dec 2002 20:11

Help,I'm working on a little Project and I would like to find a website that depicts the WWII Russian Army Ranks and how they where displayed on the Uniforms.
Can anyone Help ?
THANKS
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Post by Wilfried Abenaschon » 11 Dec 2002 17:08

Hello,
Here is some sites I've found about Red army uniforms.
http://members.tripod.com/~otlichnik/collection3.html

I'll try to send you a board of the ranks (before ans after 43) that I have somewhere...

:wink: Willab

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Russian WWII Ranks and Uniforms

Post by opahaase » 11 Dec 2002 19:31

Thanks Wilfried for replying to my search.
Those are Super websites,but they did not quite offer the information that I'm seeking,namely description of ALL the ranks and their location on the uniforms. I will keep searching.
THANK'S Again

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By the way that medieval site is very interesting

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Post by Andy H » 15 Dec 2002 15:05

Hope this is of some value

Army/Air Force ranks 40-45

Marshal
General Armiyi
General Polkovnik
General Leytenant
General Major
Polkovnik
Podpolkovnik
Major
Kaptain
Starshiy Leytenant
Leytenant
Mladshiy Leytenant
Starshina
Starshiy Serzhant
Mladshiy Serzhant
Yefreytor
Krasnoarmeyets

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Russian/oviet Ranks

Post by opahaase » 15 Dec 2002 18:01

Thanks Andy for the reply,what I am really looking for is a drawing or photos of the rank emblems,eg stripes,bars ,stars or what ever they looked like and the location on the uniforms,eg sleeves,collars etc.One can find all these wonderful charts of the German , US and United Kingdom ranks but not for the Soviets.Surely there must be some.
Thanks again Andy

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Post by Andy H » 15 Dec 2002 19:16

Check the Osprey series of Men at Arms, the book dealing with the Soldiers of the Great Patriotic War should shine some light on your search.

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Russian Ranks

Post by opahaase » 15 Dec 2002 19:22

I was trying to stay away from buying anymore books/booklets,however that will be my last resort.
Thanks again Andy

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soviet ranks

Post by opahaase » 15 Dec 2002 20:07

Thanks Marcus
I have these charts,however are these todays Russian Army Ranks,or are they WWII,or is there no difference between modern Russian ranks and WWII ??It also does not actually show how these where applied.I know it indicates Sleeve or Shoulder etc but HOW.I know they also had other markings on their uniforms.
Thanks again I will keep searching and most likely will breakdown and buy a book.

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Post by witness » 15 Dec 2002 21:13

Andy H wrote:Hope this is of some value

Army/Air Force ranks 40-45

Marshal
General Armiyi
General Polkovnik
General Leytenant
General Major
Polkovnik
Podpolkovnik
Major
Kaptain
Starshiy Leytenant
Leytenant
Mladshiy Leytenant
Starshina
Starshiy Serzhant
Mladshiy Serzhant
Yefreytor
Krasnoarmeyets

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Hi Andy.Really good knowledge !
Just two corrections.
1. This is Kapitan not "Kaptain"
2.There was no such a rank as Krasnoarmeyets.
This would correspond with Ryadovoy (Private)
Krasnoarmeyets was rather a general term for the Red army warrier.
The literal translation would be - "Red (Krasnaya) "Army" ( Armia)warrier.
Regards

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Re: soviet ranks

Post by witness » 15 Dec 2002 21:18

opahaase wrote:I have these charts,however are these todays Russian Army Ranks,or are they WWII,or is there no difference between modern Russian ranks and WWII ??

Hi opahaase.
The modern Russian ranks now are almost the same
with the exception of addition of the rank of "Praporcshik " which is the next to the rank of "Starshina" in seniority.
Regards
P.S.Also there is no "Mladshyi leitenant" rank now.

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Post by Wilfried Abenaschon » 17 Dec 2002 00:29

witness wrote:P.S.Also there is no "Mladshyi leitenant" rank now.


Hi !
Decidedly, the Russians have given up everything ! Their soul as well ?
:roll:

In term of ranks, they had their own specificity :
4 (lower officers) +3 (upper officers) + 4 (generals)
4 + 3 + 4 SU
3 + 3 + 5 US
3 + 4 + 3 UK
3 + 3 + 4 Germany & France

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Post by witness » 17 Dec 2002 01:05

Decidedly, the Russians have given up everything ! Their soul as well ?

What is it supposed to mean ?
Actually the Russians restored the old Czarist's Russia rank of "Praporshik".
So I don't think they are giving up their own traditions.
As for the rank of "Mladshyi Leitenant " my understanding is that now
one graduates from officers' college already with the rank of Leitenant ( officer rank)
whereas in order to get the rank of "Praporshik"(non-officer rank) which is now substitutes the rank of "Mladshiy leitenant "( officer rank) you don't have to take the officers' courses in the college.
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Post by Andy H » 17 Dec 2002 22:02

Witness

Thanks for the correction

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