Soviet OOBs

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by ViKinG » 04 Dec 2013 07:51

Wow, nobody wrote in here since 2010. Ok here is my question, maybe you can help. I am compiling several OOB's for Operation Barbarossa for Germans and Soviets. Just about got a full roster of the Soviet mechanised corps in June 22 1941, but wanted to see what you guys had for sources or info on 5th MC and 30th MC. Also, I know that the 29th MC was disbanded May 7th 1941, but was interested in knowing if it was ever allotted its tank divisions and motorised division before being disbanded.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by AMVAS » 04 Dec 2013 20:22

ViKinG wrote:Wow, nobody wrote in here since 2010. Ok here is my question, maybe you can help. I am compiling several OOB's for Operation Barbarossa for Germans and Soviets. Just about got a full roster of the Soviet mechanised corps in June 22 1941, but wanted to see what you guys had for sources or info on 5th MC and 30th MC. Also, I know that the 29th MC was disbanded May 7th 1941, but was interested in knowing if it was ever allotted its tank divisions and motorised division before being disbanded.

Thanks in advance
ViKing
Hi

In Russian the most comprehansive information you can get from here:

5th MC:
http://mechcorps.ru/files/mechcorps/pages/5_meh.htm

30th MC:
http://mechcorps.ru/files/mechcorps/pages/30_meh.htm

29th MC:
http://mechcorps.ru/files/mechcorps/pages/29_meh.htm

Tank divisions of the 29th MC as well as motorised one were used as individual units been of course formed and equipped with 1000+ tanks in total

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by ViKinG » 04 Dec 2013 21:48

Thanks AMVAS, looks like a very valuable site, sadly I don't read Russian haha. hmm I'll have to keep looking I guess

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by AMVAS » 04 Dec 2013 22:48

ViKinG wrote:Thanks AMVAS, looks like a very valuable site, sadly I don't read Russian haha. hmm I'll have to keep looking I guess

ViKing
such terms as Tank Division and tank are readily translated by automatic translators. Use my site abbreviation section if you have some problems with abbreviations

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Art » 20 Aug 2014 20:41

Updated links:

OOB 22.06.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 10622.html
1.07.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 10701.html
10.07.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 10710.html
1.08.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 10801.html
1.09.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 10901.html
1.10.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 11001.html
1.11.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 11101.html
1.12.41:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 11201.html
Summary table 1941 (in English):
http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1941.html

1.01.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20101.html
1.02.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20201.html
1.03.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20301.html
1.04.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20401.html
1.05.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20501.html
1.06.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20601.html
1.07.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20701.html
1.08.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20801.html
1.09.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 20901.html
1.10.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 21001.html
1.11.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 21101.html
1.12.42:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 21201.html
Summary table 1942 (in English):
http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1942.html

1.01.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30101.html
1.02.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30201.html
1.03.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30301.html
1.04.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30401.html
1.05.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30501.html
1.06.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30601.html
1.07.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30701.html
1.08.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30801.html
1.09.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 30901.html
1.10.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 31001.html
1.11.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 31101.html
1.12.43:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 31201.html
Summary table 1943 (in English):
http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1943.html

1.01.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40101.html
1.02.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40201.html
1.03.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40301.html
1.04.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40401.html
1.05.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40501.html
1.06.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40601.html
1.07.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40701.html
1.08.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40801.html
1.09.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 40901.html
1.10.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 41001.html
1.11.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 41101.html
1.12.44:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 41201.html
Summary table 1944 (in English):
http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1944.html

1.01.45:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50101.html
1.02.45:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50201.html
1.03.45:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50301.html
1.04.45:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50401.html
1.05.45:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50501.html
1.08.45 (Far East only):
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50801.html
9.08.45 (Far East only);
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50801.html
3.09.45 (Far East only):
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/Boevo ... 50903.html
Summary table 1945:
http://teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/BoevojSos ... -1945.html

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Dann Falk » 20 Aug 2014 23:28

Thanks Art for posting the links to BSSA Data.....now it's all in one place.

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Art » 21 Aug 2014 13:48

Alternative links to another site:

1.07.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
10.7.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.8.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.9.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.10.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.11.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.12.41:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152

1.1.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.2.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.3.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.4.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.5.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.6.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.7.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.8.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.9.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.10.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.11.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.12.42:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152

1.1.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.2.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.3.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.4.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.5.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.6.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.7.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.8.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.9.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.10.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.11.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.12.43:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152

1.1.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.2.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.3.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.4.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.5.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.6.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.7.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.8.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.9.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.10.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.11.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.12.44:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152

1.1.45:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.2.45:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.3.45:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.4.45:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.5.45:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.6.44 (Far East):
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.7.45 (Far East):
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
1.8.45 (Far East):
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
9.8.45 (Far East):
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152
3.9.45 (Far East):
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_con ... Itemid=152

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Jeff Leach » 26 Aug 2014 20:46

Are both Mechcorps and Tashv.nm gone? They were both very good sites. Is there somewhere to find to Perechen data now (besides Soldat.ru)? The html lists on Tashv were much easier to manipulate than the djvu files on Soldat.ru.

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Art » 26 Aug 2014 21:07

A copy of Tashv.nm is available here:
http://www.teatrskazka.com/Raznoe/
I don't know how long it would live.
Mechcorps site is off. I only can find some archived pages from the site:
http://archive.today/mechcorps.rkka.ru

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by John Hilly » 06 Nov 2015 15:08

Any idea what was the composition in spring 1943 of Tank Army's Destroyer Anti-tank Regiments?

What was the meaning of 'Destroyer' in these Regiments?

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Art » 06 Nov 2015 17:02

John Hilly wrote:Any idea what was the composition in spring 1943 of Tank Army's Destroyer Anti-tank Regiments?
Different variants. 5 or 6 batteries with 20 or 24 45-mm or 76-mm guns. One should check specific unit to give an exact answer.
What was the meaning of 'Destroyer' in these Regiments?
Essentially nothing. Just a name given to all AT-units шт 1942 for moral boost.

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Leo Niehorster » 07 Nov 2015 09:33

Are there OOB from 1939?
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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by John Hilly » 08 Nov 2015 15:12

Thanks Art! :)

Were self-propelled guns (SU-76, SU-122) In 1943 counted as 'Tanks' in Soviet documentation, or did they have thheir own file in the statistics?

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by Art » 08 Nov 2015 16:40

What kind of statistics and documentation exactly? Formally before April 1943 IIRC SP guns were considered a part of artillery.

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Re: Soviet OOBs

Post by John Hilly » 10 Nov 2015 12:16

Actually I was looking for the number of SP -guns of the 2nd Tank Army, January- July 1943.

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