Soviet organization

[FORBIN Yves]

In the meantime 1 GCC ! 21000 soldiers... each CD is full or almost 5600 about if you can confirm to me i think to 15 july ? and appear number of tanks ?

https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=111895880
page 59

[hilfwis]

Yes, 15 july and the Line Танков Всех Видов mean any type of tank according to online trad, so 1st Gd Cav div : 38 tank, 2nd Gd Cav div : 42 tank, 7th Gd Cav div : 39 tank.

[FORBIN Yves]

Thank you for your help but some GCC have a TOE of 21800 mens ! here 6 GCC i think the 7 july 1944 https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=110148432 page 4

[hilfwis]

Hummm i see but for you more reliable figures are ?

P.S : In https://pamyat-naroda.ru/ infos for Cavalry-Mechanized Groups i have find but as in Nafziger collection don't appear provisionnal units by ex Sokolov Cavalry-Mechanized Group.

Use this link http://tankfront.ru/ussr/kmg.html with any traductor online, it may be help you.

[Art]

The authorized strength of the cavalry division was about 5300 men. So 16000 men in the three divisions plus separate corps units.
How did the strength larger than 5300 happen - was it some amendment to the establishment, personnel overhead, something else - I don't know.

[FORBIN Yves]

I see and thank you for your explanations but for a comparison mid 1944 with Rifle Corps in average a iD is to 5500 mens ( i have see 4200 up to 6800 ) a Rifle Corps have with organic elements artillery etc... 21000 or 22000 mens ?

And i think a RC have more Artillery than a GCC ?

[Art]

You mean authorized strength or actual strength?

Organic artillery of rifle corps was all but absent at this stage except a small number of corps artillery regiments (total 13 regiments on 1 July 1944). Organic corps units included a corps HQ, artillery HQ battery, signals and sapper battalions and small service elements - total about 1300 men.

[AriX]

d. Tank corp had heavy tank regiment ? and how many ? 1944 and she had two or three SU assault gun regiment ?

No, it's core consisted of two tank brigades and one mech brigade. Still, there were 28 heavy SPG and 21 light one additional to 207 tanks ( TOE of 1944).