Rifle Division 04/550

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Art » 17 Nov 2015 19:53

Gary Kennedy wrote:Google translate struggles with the last two, it isn't 'chips with nests' or 'chips without nests' for sure. Шашек is a sword/sabre for the mounted platoon, but I don't know what's meant by гнезд?

Sabres with/without rifle bayonet mount on scabbard. You can see the difference down the link:
https://forum-antikvariat.ru/index.php/ ... ntry258642

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Gary Kennedy » 18 Nov 2015 01:49

Ah! Thanks, I would never have worked that one out.

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Leo Niehorster » 18 Nov 2015 16:37

Hello again,

Does it say anywhere which unit(s) provide(s) administration, mess, and supply to the Division Headquarters and Staff, Artillery Commander, Training Company (Shtat 04/553), Veterinary Hospital (Shtat 04/562), JAG Section (Shtat 04/417), Field Post Office (Shtat 04/69), and State Bank Field Office (Shtat 04/16)?

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Art » 18 Nov 2015 16:57

Divisional HQ received all kind of supplies from a signal company as mentioned in 04/550. Chemical company and veterinary hospital were for supply purposes attached to "one of divisional units" (quotation). I guess the same for other small elements.

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Leo Niehorster » 18 Nov 2015 17:00

Does that include all those smaller units as well?

Edited to add: :wink:
OK. Many thanks.

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Art » 18 Nov 2015 17:18

See addition above

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Der Alte Fritz » 20 Nov 2015 17:56

This all seems very detailed. Does it give information about the horse drawn wagons when it refers to 1 horse wagon, etc?

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Gary Kennedy » 21 Nov 2015 10:41

Transport for each subunit is detailed straight after the personnel, along with the number of draught or artillery horses for wagons and carts. The front page normally gives a summary of the various types of horse drawn transport and its use (eg, mortars, MGs, medical, signals equipment) but the tables only total the number of horses at the end.

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Gary Kennedy » 28 Nov 2015 16:28

Is anyone else having trouble with the pamyat-naroda.ru site? I haven't been able to view any documents since Wednesday (25 Nov), even though the search engine finds them.

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Eugen Pinak » 01 Dec 2015 11:18

Gary Kennedy wrote:Is anyone else having trouble with the pamyat-naroda.ru site? I haven't been able to view any documents since Wednesday (25 Nov), even though the search engine finds them.

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Gary Kennedy » 01 Dec 2015 21:43

Cheers Eugen. I got back in just yesterday, after about four days of the spinning download circle of doom!

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Der Alte Fritz » 02 Dec 2015 09:15

HI Gary
works for me on all the 04/550 documents, other than the usual cannot get past page 10. But we have solved that. Is there something you want me to download and send to you? If so send me a PM or email.
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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Der Alte Fritz » 03 Dec 2015 02:19

Art wrote:Divisional HQ received all kind of supplies from a signal company as mentioned in 04/550. Chemical company and veterinary hospital were for supply purposes attached to "one of divisional units" (quotation). I guess the same for other small elements.


Field Post Office, Field State Bank and Veterinary Hospital received support from Rear Department as did the Medical Battalion

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Leo Niehorster » 03 Dec 2015 08:40

Hi,

Field Post Office, Field State Bank and Veterinary Hospital received support from Rear Department as did the Medical Battalion.

Which unit is the "Rear Department" ?
Are you sure about the medical battalion? It has its own Service & Mess Platoon [5. Хозяйственный взвод ].

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Re: Rifle Division 04/550

Postby Der Alte Fritz » 03 Dec 2015 09:31

Leo referring to the Shtat diagram at the start of this thread.
The structure of the Division is laid out in its chain on command and the small units of the division are shown in their subordinate places. This layout is followed in the Staff of the Division Shtat 04/550. In this scheme the small units such as the Bank, Post Office and Vet Hospital are shown in the top right hand corner under the "Deputy Divisional Commander of the Rear" and under the "Department of the Rear Services". The balance of the small units are shown in the top left hand corner under the Staff and draw their rations from the only sizable unit in the staff, the Signals Company. Similarly the only sizable units of the Department of the Rear are the Medical Battalion (91) and the Bakery (55) and the Motor vehicle company (88) but the only one at the Rear HQ is the Medical Battalion, so I would imagine that their mess fed the staff, the bank, post office and vets. This follows the structure of both the Front and national Rear Services which were responsible for these areas


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