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Soviet armoured trains

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Jul 2015 00:17

Hi all,

An image from EBay:

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Post by Dann Falk » 18 Jul 2015 17:55

Nice...A Soviet armored locomotive with at least two armored wagons. The wagons appear to be Type PL-37 artillery wagons with two 76,2 guns. I think the locomotive might be a OB or maybe a OW series.

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Aug 2015 09:26

Hi all,

Image from EBay. Nice camo:

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Aug 2015 09:47

Hi all,

Some images from EBay:

Image 1: railcar D-2
Image 2: armoured train of OB-3 type
Image 3: Za Rodinu train with KV-2 turret, I think...

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Aug 2015 09:15

Hi all,

Any information about this soviet AA train ??

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Aug 2015 10:20

Hi all,

Another Soviet AA armoured train. Any information about these trains ??

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Post by Dann Falk » 29 Aug 2015 17:15

Both appear to be armed with 85 mm AA guns. The top photo shows an unusual rail car. These two AA trains would have been considered to be a heavy train vs light trains.

The use of 37 mm, 12.7 mm HMG and Four-barreled Maxim MGs guns were far more common for AA defense, on light trains.

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Post by Sturm78 » 30 Aug 2015 17:38

The second one is armed with 76.2mm M1938 guns...I do not have found any information on the net about these trains.... :?

Here, another two images from EBay:

Image 1: I think a railcar (PL-35 or PL-37 ??) of a BP-35 type train
Image 2: I think OB serie armoured loco

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Post by Dann Falk » 30 Aug 2015 19:01

4 photos up, the unusual rail car with the 85 mm AA gun, I think it might be a Polish artillery car modified for AA use.

Photo # 2 - (directly above) is a Russian 1918 era, Ov class locomotive. Armored smoke stack, then two armored steam dome/regulator valve boxes on top.

Photo #1 - I agree is some type of PL-35 car from a BP type train. But there are numerous variations of turret shape and layout.

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Sep 2015 11:19

Thank you, Dann

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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Sep 2015 10:28

Hi all,

Three images from EBay: I think a OB-3 type but with a NKPS-42 artillery wagon.... I am not sure if the three images shows the same train...

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Post by Luftflotte2 » 04 Sep 2015 04:50

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Three images from EBay: I think a OB-3 type but with a NKPS-42 artillery wagon.... I am not sure if the three images shows the same train...

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It looks like at least the 1st and 3rd are the same train. I would assume the middle is too.

Here is A PL-35* wagon in Zhytomyr Ukraine, August 1941. From ebay.de.
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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Sep 2015 09:34

Hi all,

Which are the differences between PL-35 and PL-37 artillery wagons ?? :?

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 04 Sep 2015 17:41

Sturm, I actually got it wrong. It is a PL-35. You can compare these line drawings and see the important differences.
1. The turrets are larger on the PL-35
2. The PL-37 hull is larger to accommodate 3,000 more Maxim rounds
3. The PL-35 has 2x 76.2mm 1902, the PL-37 has 2x 76.2mm 1902/30 (longer barrel)

Sources:
http://wio.ru/rr/ww2sov.htm
Бронепоезда Красной Армии 1930-1941

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PL-35 full-size: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/755/2095 ... ae80_o.png

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PL-37 full-size: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5706/209 ... 212f_o.png

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Sep 2015 22:27

Thank you very much, Luftflotte2.. :)

Very nice and useful drawings... Do you have any more of these drawings of NKPS-42 type or VS-60 type wagons ??

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