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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 26 Sep 2015 07:13

I have decided to translate some of the book "Бронепоезда Красной Армии 1930-1941 гг" so identification of heavy artillery wagons is easier.


1. The 1930 type was built on the White Russian train General Drozdowski. It was designed and built on this platform due to lack of materials and funding. It was fitted with a 107mm 1910/30 repaired from the civil war. During this time Military Warehouse Workshop №60 (военсклада №60 or Voensklada №60) drew up a new design to improve upon this model.
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2. The VS-60 had a simple 20mm steel cylindrical turret. 6 double hatches went around its circumference to easily remove equipment from the turret and for better ventilation. A ball mounted maxim was also installed in the turret. Production began in 1931 at Voensklada №60 and then ended in 1932. I believe 15 were produced, one of them later becoming part of Panzerzug 28.
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3. VS-60 with a new 20-hedron (sided) turret entered pre-production in 1932. Interior lighting and central heating were new to this version. 2 examples were made before testing began on January 28th 1933 and concluded on March 5th 1933. A long list of recommendations was made to improve it, one being an anti-aircraft MG in the rear. Most recommendations however had not been met in the redesign and this upset officials greatly. Nonetheless, serial production started at Красный Профинтерн (Red Profintern?). 8 were completed in 1933 with another 2 in 1934. One is in German use in this ebay photo.
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4. The PT-33 was also produced starting in 1933 but with a newer turret. Originally documented as the PT-33 it was later document as the PT-35 (starting in 1935). 12 of this type were made at Voensklada №60, plus two converted VS-60 models. The PT-33 and PT-35 are essentially the same.
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5. The PT-36 was meant to incorporate the earlier recommendations, including an AA MG. It was planned to use a newly produced 107mm M60 gun instead of the 1910./30. One example was built for testing, and this later became the PT-38 with a 122mm gun.
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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 27 Sep 2015 05:17

Another late model VS-60 heavy artillery wagon.
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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Sep 2015 21:28

Thank you very much for your additional information and images/drawings... :wink:

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 21:16

Here is Armored Train No.47 (VS-60 type with light artillery wagons). These photos where taken near Minsk.

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Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 21:23

This is a late model VS-60 heavy artillery wagon. Photo was taken by a member of the 291 Infantry Division.

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Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 21:28

Another side to the destroyed late model VS-60 heavy artillery wagon posted earlier.

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Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 21:34

This is Armored Train No.48 which ended up going for a swim in the Iput (Ипуть) river on August 17th, 1941. I think the wagon above the water is a VS-60 light artillery model.

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 21:49

Sturm this photo you posted earlier is a PL-35 wagon. The things to notice are spoked wheels and machine-gun mounting on the sides.
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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 22:29

This interesting train is called "Бронепоезд No.1 (За Родину!)" built in May-June 1942 in Luhansk (also called Ворошиловграде). It was assigned to the 66th Independent Armored Train Division and was later destroyed by German planes on the 7th of July 1942. This wagon is equipped with a 152mm M-10 (KV-2 turret), 45mm (T-34 turret) and 76mm 1902/30 (PL-37 turret).

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 10 Oct 2015 22:47

This is the Armored train named Маршал Буденный (Marshal Budyonny). It was destroyed near Kremenchuk in 1941. It seems to be a NKPS-42 type.

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Nov 2015 21:13

Hi all,

PL-35 wagon ???

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 14 Dec 2015 03:35

Hi Sturm, sorry I don't check here often! This one is a NKPS-42. It is a close up shot of the Marshal Budyonny in the post above.

Here is a interesting ebay photo (ID 291638100854). The locomotive is similar to the BP-35 but a more simplified version. The wagon is one of 6 that were made in Crimea, this one having a 85mm naval gun.

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Re: Soviet armoured trains

Post by Luftflotte2 » 29 Feb 2016 18:58

Armored Train No.47 close up.
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