Russian Army and Red Army Horse drawn wagons and carts

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 07 Dec 2015, 14:16

Field Kitchen Infantry and Artillery Type
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Post by 28juni14 » 08 Dec 2015, 23:58

Excellent information. Are there any specifications for the 76mm 02 munitions wagon of WW1?


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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 09 Dec 2015, 09:37

28juni14 wrote:Excellent information. Are there any specifications for the 76mm 02 munitions wagon of WW1?
No I have not come across that but then I am not specifically looking for limbers, more other equipment. If you can get the name in Russian a simple web search is sufficient to find these things on the web.

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 09 Dec 2015, 13:34

mobile radio station mounted on cart
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Post by Art » 09 Dec 2015, 15:37

28juni14 wrote:Excellent information. Are there any specifications for the 76mm 02 munitions wagon of WW1?
An ammunition wagon consisted of two part, each quite similar to the gun limber. Some pics:
http://militera.lib.ru/h/barsukov_ez2/03.jpg
http://militera.lib.ru/h/barsukov_ez2/04.jpg
http://ww2tanki.ru/images/artillerija/s ... tezh-3.jpg
http://ww2tanki.ru/images/artillerija/s ... tezh-4.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 2_guns.jpg
Details (weight, dimensions etc) can be found in technical manuals, if you are interested in them.

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Post by 28juni14 » 09 Dec 2015, 20:54

These limber drawings/plans are excellent! The munitions wagon I'm searching for is here:
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Post by Art » 09 Dec 2015, 22:27

I mean the ammunition wagon looked like two limbers connected together. Those on the photos don't like a standard ammo wagon, I don't know what it is.

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Post by 28juni14 » 10 Dec 2015, 00:25

This wagon appears to be an enlarged example of their MG wagon ; same basic design with metal doors in the rear of an oval-shaped box.
As information, I want to compliment my newly created 3D printed 1/32 scale German FK96 n/A with what I personally consider the best, ballistically, field gun of the war; The Ruski 76.2mm M02. I was lacking the limber details, and now you've provided them.
May I ask for more information? The wheel diameter will help me put everything in scale. Thank You

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 10 Dec 2015, 10:45

Is it this?
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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 11 Dec 2015, 02:40

article about horse drawn ambulances in the Finnish War and GPW
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Post by 28juni14 » 11 Dec 2015, 05:13

Ach Fritz! The pic in your first post does not open!

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 11 Dec 2015, 10:19

Works for me but here are the pictures anyway:
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Post by 28juni14 » 12 Dec 2015, 06:00

No, not the civil war MG cart, though the Reds did use that one to effect. I believe the vehicle I've illustrated above was produced by Putilov in significant numbers as a battery ammunition wagon. Finding information about it has been difficult; no one seems to be familiar with it.

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 12 Dec 2015, 10:10

MG Limber.jpg

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Post by 28juni14 » 13 Dec 2015, 05:34

I've replied to this entry twice now; no idea where my remarks have gone. In brief, this IS the wagon I've alluded to! Have you further information or additional fotos?

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