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A A-20 Boston wreck found?

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 10 May 2017, 16:56

During Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline works at Baltic Sea a WWII era bomber wreck has announced to have been discovered.
Photo from Finnish TV, a Soviet A-20 Boston?
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Post by Juha Tompuri » 10 May 2017, 17:08

The wreck lies at ca. 100m depth, but the company does not give the exact location.
However, it is mentioned that they co-operate with the (Finnish AFAIK) National Board of Antiquities, so it might lay at Finnish economic zone?.
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Post by Juha Tompuri » 10 May 2017, 19:59

Nord Stream 2 AG photos:

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 10 May 2017, 20:33

A A-20G Boston?
1st GMTAP / 51st MTAP of Baltic Sea AF?
http://www.bellabs.ru/51/index.html
http://www.bellabs.ru/51/Morozov/Losses.html ?

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Post by Art » 10 May 2017, 21:24

What is the location exactly?

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 10 May 2017, 21:38

Don't know, Nord Stream does not give the exact location.
But, as the Finnish National Board of Antiquities is involved, AFAIK, it should then be perhaps at Finnish Gulf?
The wreck has been found in 2016 and it's ca. 1km from the planned pipeline.

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Post by igorr » 11 May 2017, 07:51

It can be also recoinessance Boston from 15 ORAKP.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 11 May 2017, 08:16

Did 15 ORAKP have the G-model (if the wreck is a G)?
How about night fighter/attack (blokirovshshikie?) plane?

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Post by igorr » 11 May 2017, 08:44

Yes, 15 ORAKP has A-20G. AFAIK VVS KBF has no attack/nightfighter versions of A-20.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 11 May 2017, 11:29

OK.
How about ADD?

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Post by igorr » 11 May 2017, 11:53

I think ADD not fly over Finnish Gulf.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 11 May 2017, 12:24

February 1944 there were three attacks against Helsinki and atacks against Kotka, Turku, Mariehamn (and straying to bomb Stockholm) There they flew over the Gulf.
Also possibly over the sea also against Kokkola and Pietarsaari.
http://www.histdoc.net/lauttasaari/airraid.html
http://www.sshs.fi/binary/file/-/id/3/fid/705/
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March same year against Tallinn and Narva
http://www.estonica.org/en/Bombing_of_T ... arch_1944/

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Post by igorr » 11 May 2017, 15:40

Sorry, i haven't knowledge about ADD. Think most planes there was Il-4 and B-25, not A-20

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 11 May 2017, 17:05

I don't know if ADD had the A-20's integrally, but IIRC at least Soviet reports mention them being used during the attacks to suppress Finnish AAA with guns and rockets.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 12 May 2017, 16:05

Juha Tompuri wrote:The wreck lies at ca. 100m depth, but the company does not give the exact location.
However, it is mentioned that they co-operate with the (Finnish AFAIK) National Board of Antiquities, so it might lay at Finnish economic zone?.
The wreck location is mentioned as Western part of Finnish Gulf, international waters, at Finnish economic zone.
Finnish aviation museum is not interested in raising it. :(
http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9607944

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