Soviet mess tins
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Soviet mess tins
Anyone got pictures of the Aluminium mess tins and the glass alternative. What was it called in Russian
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"sudok", probably?
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1 ... 0%BA%D0%B8
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1 ... 0%BA%D0%B8
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I am currently reading "Hunger and War - Food provisioning in the Soviet Union during World War II" by Goldman and Fittzer and they mention the use of replacement glass mess tins due to the shortage of aluminium for making the ones above.
4,000,000 ones were ordered in third quarter 1942 and 5,000,000 in third quarter of 1943
reference Тyl Krasnoi Armii v Velikoi Otechestvennoi voine 1941-45 p.137
alternative design of mess tin?
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I don't think this is correct.replacement glass mess tins due to the shortage of aluminium
Instead of aluminum these tins were made of steel and they were only covered outside by hardened liquid glass solution.
Only water bottles / jars (фляги) were entirely made of glass instead of aluminum.
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On of the references (Russian Archive) quoted, says this:
8. Котелок более удобный бобовидный и особенно удобная крышка для питья чая и взятия второго блюда, но окраска быстро слазит**, особенно при варке в нем пищи.
9. Фляга сама по себе удобная, но стеклянные сильно бьются, а алюминиевых недостаточно и дорого обходится ее изготовление. Я бы считал, что флягу можно выпускать из пластмассы.
which is not terribly enlightening. I shall have to get the other reference.8. The mess-tin is a more convenient bean-shaped and especially convenient lid for drinking tea and taking a second dish, but the color quickly peels off **, especially when cooking food in it.
9. The water-bottle itself is comfortable, but the glass is hard to break, and aluminum is not enough and its manufacture is expensive. I would think that a flask can be made out of plastic.
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Glass in mess tins sounds like enamel.
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"Hygiene" Vol 33 of "Experience of Soviet medicine in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945" p92 (available on Twirpx https://t.co/vt63owuJOC?amp=1) says:
So in the book it says "glass canteens" but my translation of the original shows that the references are all for "glass water bottles"12. Disinfectants for individual water supplies
During the Great Patriotic War, the troops had two types of flasks: glass and aluminum. Glass jars turned out to be matrimonial for a combat situation: they quite easily break on the march, and especially during dashes, during the attack. When filling
jars of hot tea, the glass does not withstand the effects of high temperature and gives cracks; freezing water in a flask in winter leads to the same. During the war, all front-line and army sanitary inspectors unanimously demanded the replacement of glass jars with metal, mainly aluminum, which withstand high and low temperatures well, do not beat on the march and during dashes, and are almost three times lighter than glass ones.