Russian Bolshevik treatment of disfigured Russian veterans

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Russian Bolshevik treatment of disfigured Russian veterans

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Post by Panzermahn » 09 Jul 2003, 04:57

Russian Bolshevik treatment of disfigured Russian veterans of the Red Army or "samovars" were equally heartless according to Beevor's book..

Most of them were deported from Moscow because the Bolshevik authorities does not want difigured and limbless Red Army veterans lingering around in the streets of Moscow..Thanks to Beevor, an unknown or forgotten chapter of WW2 were reopened again

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Post by witness » 09 Jul 2003, 05:06

I am just curious if you read anything else about Russia besides the books of Beevor . Do you really think that he is considered to be an authoruty on Russia ?
If you are really interested in anything else besides phony Rusophobia you can try books by Bykov,Grosmann , Fadeev ,Simonov ,Solshenytsyn etc.
And if you don't trust the Russian writers you can try R. Overy.

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Post by Panzermahn » 10 Jul 2003, 05:32

Books i read on russia and bolshevism


Robert Conquest: The Red Terror

Solzhenitysn: The Gulag Archipelago

Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)

John Halbrooke (i think its the name): Socialism in Soviet Russia (penguin publications) (an execellent book on factions of Bolshevism and menshevism in the communist party of Russia)

History of Sino-Soviet Conflicts ( sorry i forgot the author and editor's name. this book is in my university's library)

Finally Anthony Beevor's outstanding historical brilliantly written masterpiece, Berlin: The Downfall 1945

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 10 Jul 2003, 06:34

panzermahn wrote:Books i read on russia and bolshevism


Robert Conquest: The Red Terror

Solzhenitysn: The Gulag Archipelago

Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)

John Halbrooke (i think its the name): Socialism in Soviet Russia (penguin publications) (an execellent book on factions of Bolshevism and menshevism in the communist party of Russia)

History of Sino-Soviet Conflicts ( sorry i forgot the author and editor's name. this book is in my university's library)

Finally Anthony Beevor's outstanding historical brilliantly written masterpiece, Berlin: The Downfall 1945
Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)
oh God... may I also sugest brilliant writings of Joseph Gobels to you when...
Robert Conquest: The Red Terror
anything older than that by any chnace? Der Stumer is good historicla publictaion....
Solzhenitysn: The Gulag Archipelago
nice fiction -now what it has to do with history?

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Post by Panzermahn » 11 Jul 2003, 04:46

I don't understand why the Red Army dishonored their own soldiers were disfigured while laying their lives for their motherland..Not even the class consicous wehrmacht treated their own soldiers like that.

Furthermore, even Red Army and Dzugashvilli worshippers always pride themselves with the heroic Red Army saved Europe from the fascist beast where they even treat their own disfigured veterans "samovars" like criminals just like beevor pointed out...

Why Bolsheviks are like that...they are even worse than the vilest nazis

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 11 Jul 2003, 05:18

panzermahn wrote:I don't understand why the Red Army dishonored their own soldiers were disfigured while laying their lives for their motherland..Not even the class consicous wehrmacht treated their own soldiers like that.

Furthermore, even Red Army and Dzugashvilli worshippers always pride themselves with the heroic Red Army saved Europe from the fascist beast where they even treat their own disfigured veterans "samovars" like criminals just like beevor pointed out...

Why Bolsheviks are like that...they are even worse than the vilest nazis
I thought that the Wehrmacht was known to have removed class difference between it's soldiers and officers and made more effective because of this.

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Post by Panzermahn » 11 Jul 2003, 05:35

As Beevor has stated in his book Berlin, the Wehrmacht are class conscious especially the Heer which most of the officers are dominated by Prussian military caste..although they are class conscious, the german army generals usually address their men affectionately as kinder....


at least the Wehrmacht did not deport their veterans for being disfigured in the service of their countries

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Post by Tomster » 11 Jul 2003, 22:56

panzermahn wrote:Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)
I advice you to read more serious historybooks before you judge and make such foolish statements.

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 11 Jul 2003, 23:07

panzermahn wrote:As Beevor has stated in his book Berlin, the Wehrmacht are class conscious especially the Heer which most of the officers are dominated by Prussian military caste..although they are class conscious, the german army generals usually address their men affectionately as kinder....


at least the Wehrmacht did not deport their veterans for being disfigured in the service of their countries
considering how they treated their mentally ill and such -it was only question of time

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 11 Jul 2003, 23:09

Tomster wrote:
panzermahn wrote:Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)
I advice you to read more serious historybooks before you judge and make such foolish statements.
dude, you are "preaching to perverted"

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Post by witness » 11 Jul 2003, 23:56

panzermahn wrote:Books i read on russia and bolshevism


Robert Conquest: The Red Terror

Solzhenitysn: The Gulag Archipelago

Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)

John Halbrooke (i think its the name): Socialism in Soviet Russia (penguin publications) (an execellent book on factions of Bolshevism and menshevism in the communist party of Russia)

History of Sino-Soviet Conflicts ( sorry i forgot the author and editor's name. this book is in my university's library)

Finally Anthony Beevor's outstanding historical brilliantly written masterpiece, Berlin: The Downfall 1945
What you lack in your collection are the "Sturmer" periodicals :lol:
You would enjoy those..
Yeah your knowledge of the Russian history and culture must be quite in deapth..
You are absolutely on the right track to become a genuine Malasian
panzermahn ..Keep it up !!
I just see you sitting in your panzer bunker in the middle of a tropical forest and thoughtfully thumbing through the "Protocols .."
Such a powerful image !

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Post by Tomster » 12 Jul 2003, 10:48

oleg wrote:
Tomster wrote:
panzermahn wrote:Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Malaysian Edition 1998) and
the International Jew by Henry Ford (Malaysian edition 1998)
I advice you to read more serious historybooks before you judge and make such foolish statements.
dude, you are "preaching to perverted"
huh?

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Post by Andy H » 12 Jul 2003, 12:33

Nothing constructive will come of this thread.

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