Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by Art » 07 Oct 2017 10:27

Well, Zetterling's source is partly the volume VII of the official Soviet history. Which gives only airplanes in the Army air force and (apparently) only operational ones. A little bit earlier the same book gives 10 252 operational airplanes on the front as of 1.7.43.
For comparison, according to a formerly classified statistical digest "Soviet aviation in numbers...":
Army air force on the front - 8826 airplanes on 1.7.43, including 7796 operational
Long-range bomber force - 740/512
Air defense fighters - 2124/1554
Navy's air force - 817/652
Or total 12561/10541

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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by Hiryu- » 07 Oct 2017 13:34

Thanks Art, your response is enlightening.

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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by Hiryu- » 07 Oct 2017 17:29

Another question, what is included in the "Others" aircraft category? Transport planes, I guess..?
Are training units included in the "operationnal forces"? What are exactly the "inactive forces": training units, or simply planes without crews stacked in hangars in the rear? Or both?

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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by Art » 22 Dec 2017 16:53

Another question, what is included in the "Others" aircraft category?
Transport, sanitary, liaison, training.
Are training units included in the "operationnal forces"?

For the most part no.
What are exactly the "inactive forces"
Military districts (including schools and training establishment), Far East, Caucasus.
or simply planes without crews stacked in hangars in the rear?
Don't know about that. Typically the Soviet air force possessed more airplanes than fully trained crews.

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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by Hiryu- » 23 Dec 2017 17:08

Thank you for your response!

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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by tramonte » 20 Feb 2020 14:16

Read debate: Vyborg–Petrozavodsk Offensive/Archive 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AVy ... FArchive_1

There were two operations (based on Soviet documents)g
1) Operation Vyborg (9-20.6.1944)
2) Operation Kotka (Soviet plan to penetrate to river of Kymi)

The latter part of the offensive was sunk deep into Soviet memory hole. No losses mentioned by Krivosheev.
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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by John Hilly » 20 Feb 2020 14:27

tramonte wrote:
20 Feb 2020 14:16
Read debate: Vyborg–Petrozavodsk Offensive/Archive 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AVy ... FArchive_1

There were two operations (based on Soviet documents)g
1) Operation Vyborg (9-20.6.1944)
2) Operation Kotka (Soviet plan to penetrate to river of Kymi)

The latter part of the offensive was sunk deep into Soviet memory hole. No losses mentioned by Krivosheev.
I have been wondering the same for years.
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Re: Soviet Fronts strengths: Overview

Post by Art » 20 Feb 2020 16:13

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