Christie=BT?

Discussions on all aspects of the USSR, from the Russian Civil War till the end of the Great Patriotic War and the war against Japan. Hosted by Art.
User avatar
Lauri Allan T
Member
Posts: 4
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 18:46
Location: Suomi

Christie=BT?

Post by Lauri Allan T » 21 Oct 2002 18:05

Hi!

Does anyone remember did Finns called BT-tanks as "Christie". It's told in Pekka Kantokoski' s book, but i don't remember it now :roll:

Ovidius
Member
Posts: 1414
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 19:04
Location: Romania

Re: Christie=BT?

Post by Ovidius » 21 Oct 2002 18:29

Lauri Allan T wrote:Hi!

Does anyone remember did Finns called BT-tanks as "Christie". It's told in Pekka Kantokoski' s book, but i don't remember it now :roll:


Could it be because the BT-series were derivatives of the Christie M1931? :mrgreen:

~Ovidius

User avatar
Oleg Grigoryev
Member
Posts: 5051
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 20:06
Location: Russia

Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 21 Oct 2002 18:58

one would think that BT is easier to say than Christy... I mean using that logic one should call Hond Civic - "McPherson"

User avatar
Juha Tompuri
Forum Staff
Posts: 11469
Joined: 11 Sep 2002 20:02
Location: Mylsä

Post by Juha Tompuri » 21 Oct 2002 23:15

Mr Törni,

Wellcome to the forum!
Yes, you remembered right, BT`s were called Christies.

Oleg,

There`s a certain logig, why : SU bought the first two "real" Christies from States in 1930. In SU they were re-named BT-1. There is much more Christie in every BT, than McPherson in any Honda

Juha

User avatar
Oleg Grigoryev
Member
Posts: 5051
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 20:06
Location: Russia

Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 21 Oct 2002 23:54

how so? while eraly BT was a lot similar to the Christy BT-5 and BT-7 were considerably different - the only christy element was suspension -just like McPherson in Honda.

User avatar
Juha Tompuri
Forum Staff
Posts: 11469
Joined: 11 Sep 2002 20:02
Location: Mylsä

Post by Juha Tompuri » 22 Oct 2002 06:28

Oleg,

All BT`s were similar to the original Christie. Actually BT`S were "just" inproved Christies. I don`t know any Honda , that resembles McPherson.

Juha

User avatar
JTV
Member
Posts: 1941
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 10:03
Location: Finland

Post by JTV » 22 Oct 2002 07:18

Juha Tompuri wrote:Oleg,

All BT`s were similar to the original Christie. Actually BT`S were "just" inproved Christies. I don`t know any Honda , that resembles McPherson.

Juha


I agree, BT-series tanks were very similar to original Christie-tank. The had all the same good qualities (very fast, could be used also without trucks if used only at roads) and not so good qualities (thin armour, poor terrain capabilities). Largest difference between them and original Christie tank was new engine.

User avatar
Lauri Allan T
Member
Posts: 4
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 18:46
Location: Suomi

Christie-BT-T-34

Post by Lauri Allan T » 22 Oct 2002 07:44

T-34 was based on BT/Christie. Thats how i remember it.

User avatar
Oleg Grigoryev
Member
Posts: 5051
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 20:06
Location: Russia

Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 22 Oct 2002 08:27

Juha Tompuri wrote:Oleg,

All BT`s were similar to the original Christie. Actually BT`S were "just" inproved Christies. I don`t know any Honda , that resembles McPherson.

Juha
MCPherson is not a car it is suspension type http://www.hondacars.com/models/specifi ... ivic+Sedan - so is so called christy - even BT-2 was differnt from Christy tank by having aditional wheel as well as reinforced suspension.

User avatar
JTV
Member
Posts: 1941
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 10:03
Location: Finland

Re: Christie-BT-T-34

Post by JTV » 22 Oct 2002 11:33

Lauri Allan T wrote:T-34 was based on BT/Christie. Thats how i remember it.


Partly. T-34 suspension was based to one used in BT-series (and Christie tank). Otherwise it was quite different tank.

Good site about Soviet tanks (however, seems somewhat unstable today):

http://www.battlefield.ru/map.html

User avatar
Juha Tompuri
Forum Staff
Posts: 11469
Joined: 11 Sep 2002 20:02
Location: Mylsä

Post by Juha Tompuri » 22 Oct 2002 16:54

Oleg,

I agree wih you, BT-2 was a Christie with some extra wheels and reinforced suspension.
About the McPherson, I knew and thought you knew too.

Juha

Return to “The Soviet Union at War 1917-1945”