Russian Stuka types ?

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 28 Oct 2002 10:19

Hi!

My sources also mention the Yak-9T (some sources Yak-9T-37, but they state the "T" for "tyazhely"= heavy(cannon). The "T" could also carry 200kg PTAB anti-armour bombs (2,5kg each) in four underwing containers. Occasionaly the the NS-37 was replaced by the 23mm VYa. A REAL tank-buster.
There were other AT Yak-9`s too.
Yak-9K "krupnyi kalibr"= heavy caliber(cannon) with 45mm cannon.
Yak-9B "bombardirovshchik" =bomber with 128 1,5 or 2,5kg PTAB bombs can be considered as "tank buster".
Some Yak-7T´s were also made.


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Post by varjag » 26 Nov 2002 12:17

Coldams initial question about 'Stuka-types' (i.e. dive-bombers) and the the formulated question about 'Tank-busters' was a little confusing. The 'Stukas' (Ju 87) were dive-bombers par excellence, their later application as tank-busters - was a stop-gap solution. As the forumners have amply pointed out the Soviet Airforce pioneered low-level ground support for their army. Tank-busting - just became another extension of an already formulated tactical idea. The Szhturmoviki aeroplanes were en entire class of a/c for that concept - that dates back to the 20-ies and thirties - of which some were mentioned in previous posts. But as for the
dive-bomber, the Russians seems to have flirted with the idea - but like most others - abandoned it. They bought Vultee V-11's to compare and tried various applications to types like the R-5, R-10, Su-2 without much success. They put dive-brakes on an SB and called it the Ar-2 but it - like the Pe-2, certainly were not dive-bombers on the Stuka or SBD lines - they were 'zoom-bombers' and their bombing accuracy never got close to that of the true dive-bombers. True dive bombers?
There was a saying in the USN which developed the entire concept - that
'when we say - DIVE - we mean Straight Down'. Only the Germans took notice - with devastating results.

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Post by varjag » 26 Nov 2002 12:19

Whoops - I forgot the Japanese - they took notice too! Hope I got that in before someone rattled my memory.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 26 Nov 2002 21:50

Varjag,

How about Blackburn Skua and Saab B 17?

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Post by varjag » 27 Nov 2002 11:57

Juha - the less said about the Blackburn Skua - the better.Yes they 'got' the KOLN in Bergen - in steep 50 degree dives - but nothing like the Ju 87's. And little else. As for the SAAB B 17 it was the same story.It had an air-brake system supposed to be shared between std wing-brakes and the landing-gear extended.The latter never worked - which put som severe operational restrictions on it's 'stuka-use'.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 27 Nov 2002 23:43

Varjag,

Why do I lead you off-topic again...?
So...we finns don`t have to be very sorry that we didn`t receive the 30+ promised Blackburn Roc FIGHTERS at the end of the Winter War?

Kind Regards, Juha

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