German Army Helmet Help

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glen6501
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German Army Helmet Help

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Post by glen6501 » 19 Aug 2019, 16:24

Hello,
I'm new to this and could use some help. I was given this helmet. Based on my extremely limited knowledge and doing some basic searches, I've been able to tell the following (correct me if I'm wrong)

* It is Heer - Army
* It is an M40 because it has punched vent holes and the edge is folded inward
* It has a F.W. Quist / Esslingen manufacturer mark
* The manufacturer code of Q is on the side of the helmet so it is most likely pre 1943.

How far off am I? Is there anything else I"m missing? Any idea on it's value?

Thanks!
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Re: German Army Helmet Help

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Post by John G. » 19 Aug 2019, 18:25

Correct on your thoughts.... being an M40 it's pre-43rd as all helmet made after 42 were M42 versions.
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Re: German Army Helmet Help

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Post by glen6501 » 21 Aug 2019, 22:31

Does anyone have any idea of the value?

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Post by John G. » 22 Aug 2019, 01:39

In the condition it's in.....no leather, no strap, well worn paint.... Decent decal..... I'd estimate $250.00 US +/-.
Hard to be more accurate without pictures from all angles. A squirt of wd40 wouldn't hurt either on this one.
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Post by xray71 » 28 Sep 2019, 11:01

Hello.
I would like to get advice from a specialist. what will you say about this decals? A helmet costs real money but still, I want to know the original decals or not. I will be happy to get answer from a person who understands this issue.
thank you

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Post by von thoma » 29 Sep 2019, 00:30

Hello ;

Welcome to AHF
Both looks as original applied decals
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Post by John G. » 29 Sep 2019, 15:35

I agree, appear to be original decals.... Very nice!
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Post by xray71 » 29 Sep 2019, 21:52

Friends, thank you for the answers) It is very nice to get useful information from people who know the question. Now I know what I will do. Your answers are valuable to me. Thank you. And for the welcome on the forum, thanks too.

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Post by xray71 » 06 Oct 2019, 02:01

I look at the photo with the wire on the helmet, to keep camouflage - grass branches, etc. .. The helmets that selling now the wire is tightly pressed to the helmet. I can’t understand how to put grass or tree branches under this wire. look at the photo of the helmet of the paratrooper. It is clearly seen that the wire has a distance to the helmet

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Post by eindhoven » 02 Nov 2019, 07:09

xray71 wrote:
06 Oct 2019, 02:01
I look at the photo with the wire on the helmet, to keep camouflage - grass branches, etc. .. The helmets that selling now the wire is tightly pressed to the helmet. I can’t understand how to put grass or tree branches under this wire. look at the photo of the helmet of the paratrooper. It is clearly seen that the wire has a distance to the helmet

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Xray71, you have to take into account these helmets survived war, a journey back from war, being played with, stored, and some have changed hands multiple times. They are often not stored adequately by having things stacked on top of them. They are seldom in as found condition the day they were discarded or taken.

Here is a period image of an FJ in Normandy in 1944 with a wire basket helmet. His bailing wire is fixed closely to the shell. Another showing similar wire attachment. The heavier wire basket types are also not easy to bend into shape which would account for the gap between the wire and shell. Chicken wire baskets are more frequently encountered.
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Frankreich 1944 Fallschirmjäger with map bei Lagebesprechnung at a table under a tree with, Maschinenpistole (MP) on the planning table.jpg

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Re: German Army Helmet Help

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Post by xray71 » 08 Nov 2019, 22:45

Yes. You are right.

Please, tell me, the helmet m16. Is the liner original
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