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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by Hikita88 » 03 Feb 2022 15:49

hello, I have a photo and as you can see on it that he is from Deutschland, but I have doubts. The fact is that I did not find an example of D on his shoulder straps in other sources. Notice the D is long and embroidered, not aluminum. Has anyone seen such an example? I'll clarify, this is 1943

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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by von thoma » 21 Feb 2022 00:54

It is not sure that it is an embroidered letter....
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by Hikita88 » 20 Apr 2022 20:18

von thoma wrote:
21 Feb 2022 00:54
It is not sure that it is an embroidered letter....
hello, what does G stand for? I don't know

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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by Totenkomf » 20 Apr 2022 20:23

Hikita88 wrote:
20 Apr 2022 20:18
von thoma wrote:
21 Feb 2022 00:54
It is not sure that it is an embroidered letter....
hello, what does G stand for? I don't know
Hikita88- The G stands for SS-Germania Regiment.
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 06 Aug 2022 17:47

Hi, what is the meaning of this sleeve patch?
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by HPL2008 » 06 Aug 2022 18:10

It's the Steuermannsabzeichen [coxswain's badge], a trade badge worn by army NCOs and men of the Pionier [engineers] branch who were qualified to operate powered watercraft (for example assault boats).
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by HPL2008 » 06 Aug 2022 18:17

(Sorry, double post.)

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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 06 Aug 2022 19:47

Thank you HPL2008

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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by von thoma » 02 Sep 2022 00:28

Where can I get information about of these early uniforms of NSDAP leaders ?
Do you know any book that covers this topic ?
Thanks.
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by Mark Costa » 02 Sep 2022 02:03

von thoma wrote:
02 Sep 2022 00:28
Where can I get information about of these early uniforms of NSDAP leaders ?
Do you know any book that covers this topic ?
Thanks.
This is not a political leader. It is SA Gruppenfuhrer Fritz von Kraußer in an SA uniform. The best book on the NSDAP Political Leaders uniforms is by Jeff Clark. It does have a few things missing regarding the very early high leaders insignia of 1933 but it has everything else.

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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by von thoma » 02 Sep 2022 05:40

Thanks Mark Costa.

But I find that patch odd ( as if it was put on backwards ), and also the dark color of the tunic.
What year do you think it could be ?

If I remember well, I saw Robert Ley wearing this kind of uniform too.
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by Mark Costa » 02 Sep 2022 20:01

von thoma wrote:
02 Sep 2022 05:40
Thanks Mark Costa.

But I find that patch odd ( as if it was put on backwards ), and also the dark color of the tunic.
What year do you think it could be ?

If I remember well, I saw Robert Ley wearing this kind of uniform too.
This sometime in early 1933 before Krausser was promoted to Obergruppenfuhrer. The tabs are on backwards.

In regards to the Robert Ley's uniform -- there is a lot of confusion with the first uniforms for high leaders. The Reichsleitung department heads used collar tabs that were similar to those like an SA Gruppenfuhrer -- that looked like the ones that Krauser wears BUT were carmine and piped in gold (or no piping at all). Within a couple of months in March 1933 another revamping of the party structure was in process. Ley was again asked to restructure the insignias. For the Reichsleitung department heads he changed them to look like gauleiter tabs BUT again in Carmine and piped in gold. During 1933 BOTH types were worn sometimes at the same time by various members of the Reichsleitung. But because both styles looked too much Gruppenfuhrer and gauleiter tabs they were abolished when the new Reichsleiter tabs were introduced in early 1934. That is why one finds Ley weaing tabs like these. He are some photos of guys wearing both types.

Ley wearing the PL uniform -- note the PL shoulder eagle that notes he is a PL -- yes they look just like the SA uniform tabs but they are actually different.

Reichsleiter Bouhler wearing the first style Reichsleitung tabs.

Ley wears the second style reichsleitung tabs that look like gauleiter tabs. Schwarz, Feder, Grimm and Hierl wear the first style. As you can see they look too similar to the gruppenfuhrer and gauleiter tabs hence that is why they were abolished.

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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by von thoma » 02 Sep 2022 21:08

Good info, thanks again.

Yes, I was referring to this kind of dark political uniforms.
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Re: Uniform ID question

Post by Igor Karpov » 28 Oct 2022 11:54

von thoma wrote:
21 Oct 2019 02:29
What kind of Occupied Eastern Territories uniform is that ?
Thank you
It's Oberpostrat and SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Richard Lauxmann.

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Igor

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