Help ID Unk Collar Device

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Help ID Unk Collar Device

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Post by geraldclough » 25 Apr 2017, 02:36

I'm not at all sure this is Axis, but I hope someone will be able to identify it, because I can only suspect it is from WWII and that it is military. It is a sewn on collar device, metallic piece on a sewn red leather diamond. It is on a leather military style wrap jacket that has no other markings, perhaps because the liner has been removed. I also believe the buttons have been changed to conventional leather buttons. Otherwise, it resembles some tanker wrap jackets. Any help would be appreciated. It turned up in a Goodwill, so no history at all. Its overall quality and condition would seem to place it in about the WWII vintage. Size is very small by today's standards. Thanks
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Post by geraldclough » 25 Apr 2017, 17:43

I'm here adding more photos, the more clues the better, since this may be obscure and may not even be specifically within this interest group. I can tell you the zip pull has no markings. I no longer think the buttons are replacements. I see some like them on German jackets, although the button style is certainly not unique. I also see that there are apparent holes where buttons were once sewn higher on each shoulder for removable shoulder straps. But you can see more of the construction.
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Post by John G. » 25 Apr 2017, 22:17

Pretty sure this is Spanish- probably 1940s/50s....
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Post by geraldclough » 25 Apr 2017, 22:45

I suspected that when I saw that they used the red diamond, but I can't find a thing on the metal device. If I had to guess, I'd say it's a driver's badge. Thanks

UPDATE - You got it. I found the wheel-like device pictured in offering of Spanish militaria in a Madrid flea market on a Facebook post. No other information. But I think that and the red diamond make it certain.
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Post by von thoma » 25 Apr 2017, 22:56

Branch/Corps of military vehicles of Spanish Army, years 40 or 50.
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Post by geraldclough » 26 Apr 2017, 00:31

Thanks to all who looked and thought about. I have been thinking it was a driver's insignia, but now, seeing the last post, I wonder if it isn't a tanker/mechanized insignia. It translated into the metal device with a different impression than above where it brings to mind the idler wheel of a tank. And that makes more sense as a branch badge than driver. It's a very small jacket, even for the 1940's in Europe, probably a desirable size for a tanker.

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Post by von thoma » 04 May 2017, 05:37

Is not a tank driver.
The steering wheel it's for drivers of cars, trucks or motorcycles, mechanicals too.
Tank drivers wear cavalry or infantry ( Mechanized Infantry ) insignia.
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