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Post by banebeograd » 26 Jul 2019, 09:26

greeting to all...

could somebody help me about identification ?

Namely, they often post this photo on the home internet forums and describe it,
"a German officer in the village of Karin near the town of Obrovac (ex-Yugoslavia) in late 1943."
My personal photo looks like a forgery and as if the photoshop officer was inserted into it. so any help in identifying an officer or his status in terms of rank, membership of a military formation and the like would be welcome ... i
n advance, thank you all for engagement ...

ps.I use google translate, so apologize if something in the text of the message turned out incomprehensible
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Post by John G. » 26 Jul 2019, 18:07

Nothing clear enough about the German officer to tell what rank or branch or unit. No awards being worn, so really can't help. I don't see evidence of "photo shop" but possible I guess.
Sorry unable to assist but would be guessing.
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Post by von thoma » 26 Jul 2019, 18:13

Hello banebeograd ;

Welcome to AHF

I think the German officer is not added on the photo.
Acording its uniform, it's an Army officer, with a rank of Major or Oberstleutmant ( Commandant or Lieutenant Colonel )
Grenadier-Regiment 891 ( 264. Infanterie-Division ) was involved in this area ( Kroatien und Dalmatien ) during 1943
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Post by rlimike » 26 Jul 2019, 19:16

Agree ... the officer has been added into the photo. Looking at the leading edge all the way around him it sure looks like photo-shop or some other photo editing program was used.

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Post by von thoma » 26 Jul 2019, 19:59

On all copies, the german officer remains. I can't find any original picture without him
What is the sense of adding this German officer in a defeated attitude ? There are a lot of pictures showing Chetniks with Germans officers
Nothing special.
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Post by banebeograd » 26 Jul 2019, 21:46

greeting ,

the photo was placed on a site where many forgeries were proved by the long-standing authorities in Yugoslavia,
this photo at first seemed incredible in terms of content and content, the Chetnik who put that gun in an incredible position, a German officer who seems to me down in relation to the size of the participant in the photo, then he does not have two buttons on the blouse, there is no weapon, the cap headgear has somehow a strange top, and behind it it looks like it has some white halo, it looks like someone was erasing something here, adding it to the photo of the other two ...

thank everyone for engagement

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Post by von thoma » 27 Jul 2019, 16:51

Not everything is so weird ;
the Chetnik who put that gun in an incredible position
No, this kind of MP have lateral belt hooks, and by this reason it gets that strange position
the cap headgear has somehow a strange top
The officer wears a soft visor cap, known as "crusher cap"
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Post by banebeograd » 27 Jul 2019, 17:28

which exactly is this rifle

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Post by peeved » 27 Jul 2019, 17:31

Beretta Model 1938 SMG with bayonet folded. No magazine inserted.

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Post by banebeograd » 27 Jul 2019, 18:07

thaaanks

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