Wearing multiple cuff titles....

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Post by Oskar » 19 Jun 2002, 17:27

Hi all:

I am a little confused about the picture. The tank commander on the right seems to be wearing SS totemkopff insignia on his collar patch, but has a Wehrmacht cap. Can someone explain that please?

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Heer Panzer Collar Tabs

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Post by Al Carter » 19 Jun 2002, 17:57

Those are Heer panzer collar tabs they also had the Totenkopf on them, but the totenkopf on the Heer tabs was a bit different than the ones used by the SS.

Heer totekopf on left, SS on right.

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Post by Kurasier » 25 Jun 2002, 19:25

Hi,
here is another Photo of a man, who is wearing two cufftitles:
http://www.photosammler.de/s0108d.htm
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Campaign/Honour Cuff Titles and Regimental Cuff Titles

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Post by Meech » 28 Jun 2002, 20:05

There is a difference between campaign cufftitles and unit cufftitles. Maybe I`m speaking of a different case here.......???????? :oops:

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Yes, there is a difference. There were a number of cuff titles awarded for particular campaigns such as "Spanien 1936", "Kreta", " Gibraltar",
"Afrika" to the participants be it Heer, Luftwaffe or Kriegsmarine.

Then there were regimental or divisional cuff titles that were part of the regimental/divisional uniform. eg: "Viking", "Hitelr Jugend" "Adolf Hitler" and represented no particular award or campaign.

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Post by Oskar » 28 Jun 2002, 21:01

Hey Kurasier:

I may be off, but I think the man wearing two cuff titles in the picture is going against the regs.

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Post by Kurasier » 01 Jul 2002, 12:56

Hi,
Sorry I don't know the regs, so I can't say if it is against the regs.
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Post by sylvieK4 » 26 Nov 2004, 16:44

I found this photo on ebay.
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Post by Sturmman » 26 Nov 2004, 17:23

mmm is that a DF and a DS cuff? Weird stuff, more pics would be NICE! 8O :D

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Post by GebirgsNachHpt » 13 Oct 2005, 19:48

your correct the general is against the regulations...the afrika cufftitle goes on the left sleeve not the right....afrikakorps goes on the right

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Post by Chris Carden » 13 Oct 2005, 21:08

Here is one.
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Post by Larrister » 20 Oct 2005, 06:19

Hello

I am sure that this topic has been covered before. Here is a photo of the SS Deutschland and SS Schule cufftitles being worn.

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Post by Warager » 20 Oct 2005, 21:55

look at the cufftitles of the men next to Goering
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Post by sylvieK4 » 09 Dec 2005, 19:09

I found this photo of a Heer NCO at an online auction. Is the wearing of cufftitles on both right and left sleeves unusual?
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Post by HPL2008 » 09 Dec 2005, 19:35

sylvieK4 wrote:I found this photo of a Heer NCO at an online auction. Is the wearing of cufftitles on both right and left sleeves unusual?
The picture is not too clear, but I am almost 100 % certain that what we see here are not cufftitles, but rather the two rings of NCO Tresse worn on both lower sleeves by NCOs holding the duty position of Spieß.
(See here for a few examples: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/forums/ ... p?t=112417 )

Otherwise, cuff titles/sleevebands on both sleeves were not too common, but it did happen.
For example, if somebody was awarded one of the campaign cuffbands ("Afrika", "Kreta", "Kurland" or "Metz 1944"), which were to be worn on the left sleeve and was, at the same time, entitled to wear a unit cuff title like "Großdeutschland", "Brandenburg" etc.) on the right sleeve.

Another example is a young enlisted man appearing in a photograph in Gordon Williamson & Thomas McGuirl's "German Military Cuffbands 1784 - Present": He can be seen wearing his original unit's "Großdeutschland" cuffband on the right sleeve and his current assignment's "Führerbegleitbataillon" cuffband on the left one, which was perfectly in line with regulations.

One thing that did not happen, though - or at least it would have been totally against regulations - was the wearing of identical cuff titles/sleevebands on both sleeves.
(During the Third Reich period, that is. Identical cuffbands on both sleeves were - and are - worn by certain Bundeswehr formations.)

Oh, and by the way: The SA officer next to Goering in the picture above isn't actually wearing multiple cuff titles, either: He is wearing a "Feldherrnhalle" cuff title above SA long service sleeve stripes.

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Post by craigob » 09 Dec 2005, 20:07

GebirgsNachHpt wrote:your correct the general is against the regulations...the afrika cufftitle goes on the left sleeve not the right....afrikakorps goes on the right
The grossdeutschland cufftitle is in the correct place

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