Sonderführer in the Waffen-SS

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Sonderführer in the Waffen-SS

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Post by WTW26 » 02 Jul 2002, 13:36

Were there any Sonderführer in the Waffen-SS? And if yes, what uniforms did they wear?

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Post by WTW26 » 03 Jul 2002, 10:10

Thanks, but it's not what I mean. Here's a small article about the Sonderführer in the Wehrmacht:
"As of 26 August 1939, NCOs and men with special linguistic or technical skills, but lacking in necessary military training, were permitted to be promoted to NCO or officer supervisory status as Specialist Officers. They wore standard military uniforms (excepting as detailed below), and did have officer's rank (without an actual commission) and authority (but only within the area covered by their occupation) excepting those graded equivalent to NCOs.
The rank titles and insignia of the Sonderführer changed in March 1940; in a desire to encourage these men to undertake military training and become full-fledged military officers, insignia closer in design to standard Army insignia was introduced. The rank titles remained the same. In Dec 1942, new rank titles were introduced, and the insignia reverted back to the pre-1940 styles."
I wonder if there was something like that in the Waffen-SS.

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 05 Mar 2012, 05:57

General Governor Dr. Hasn Frank accepts the traditional Ukrainian Greeting of Bread and Salt from M.Khronoviat in his capacity as a representative of the of the Military Board during a visit to Drohobych 20th June 1943
Source: http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl

Is that an SS-Sonderführer (Fachführer) third from left with weird symbol on hat?
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Re: Sonderführer in the Waffen-SS

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Post by Arto O » 05 Mar 2012, 21:26

Hi,
John Angolia (Cloth Insignias of the SS) wrote: At first the Waffenfarbe was to be dark green on a black underlay for officers. All other insignia was standard Waffen-SS. The five ranks/positions were as follow.The left collar rank insignia was for the respective position. The right collar insigne for all positions was blank.
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In June 1942 a change was made in the insignia worn and the name of the duty position. The title SS-Fachführer replaced the former SS-Sonderführer. The Waffenfarbe was changed to red/grey.
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Now about the young man with strange insignia in his peaked cap, no idea.
But look the man just behind the Obersturmführer, he seems to wear collar ranks of Hauptscharführer or Sturmscharführer, but there is no boarding in his shoulder boards. Just what seems to be a pip.
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Post by Semenov » 06 May 2012, 20:10

AlifRafikKhan wrote:
General Governor Dr. Hans Frank accepts the traditional Ukrainian Greeting of Bread and Salt from M.Khronoviat in his capacity as a representative of the of the Military Board during a visit to Drohobych 20th June 1943
Is that an SS-Sonderführer (Fachführer) third from left with weird symbol on hat?
he is from Sonderdienst.
SS-Obersturmführer and other SS-mans are from Sipo

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 08 May 2012, 09:48

Thank you Arto and Semenov... :)

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Post by Laurence Strong » 29 Oct 2012, 02:37

Sonderdienst cap badge. It belongs to Pascal B over on WAF
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Post by smetanin albert » 24 May 2021, 15:11

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