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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 14 May 2018 18:30

Sam'da Top onarim atelyeleri komutani : Şam'da top onarım atelyeleri komutanı
Şam: Damascus
Şam'da: in Damascus
top;artillery gun
Onarım: repair
atelyeleri workshops
komutanı: the commander
The Commander of artillery repair workshops in Damascus

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 14 May 2018 18:34

"Ağır Topçu Tabur Komutanı Çanakkale'de(1.Ordu) ve Irak'ta agir Top Tabur. Kom"

Heavy Artillery Battalion Commander in Çanakkale (1st Army ) and Heavy Artillery Battalion commander in Iraq

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 15 May 2018 00:17

Tosun,

My friend teşekkür ederim (I hope that is right?)

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 15 May 2018 00:42

Tosun,

I did notice this

Deniz saglik Birliklerinin en üst rütbeli subayi

(Top ranking officer of Marine Health Corps)

The use of the word Top is interesting

rütbeli subayi

senior officer

So should the translation be "senior officer of Marine Health Corps"

The German officer is Naval Dr Col Böse

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 15 May 2018 00:50

Tosun,

Another word I was after is the use of the word "Sahra"

Like

3. Sahra topçu Alayi Komutani Çanakkale'de komutan "Topçu okulu komutani

(Sahra Artillery Alia Commander Commander in Canakkale "Artillery school commander)

Filistin'de Cenin'de 300. Sahra uçus birliklerinde Sehit Pilot
(Jenin De 300th in Palestine Sehit Pilot in Sahara Flight Units)

Mardin'de Sahra Demiryollari Komutani
(Sahra Railways Commander in Mardin)

Now Why the word Sahra when these units were no where near the Sahra desert?

There are many more men who show this name in there employment with the Ottoman Army?

Any ideas

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 15 May 2018 16:20

Deniz saglik Birliklerinin en üst rütbeli subayi

(Top ranking officer of Marine Health Corps)

The use of the word Top is interesting

rütbeli subayi

senior officer

So should the translation be "senior officer of Marine Health Corps"
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En üst : top (we dont have a foreign world lile "top" in our language, although we have many foreign words.

both is correct: the top ranking officer or senior officer of Naval (Navy) Health Corps. Marine is not the right word.

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 15 May 2018 16:37

"Sahra"

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3. Sahra topçu Alayi Komutani Çanakkale'de komutan "Topçu okulu komutani

(Sahra Artillery Alia Commander Commander in Canakkale "Artillery school commander)

Filistin'de Cenin'de 300. Sahra uçus birliklerinde Sehit Pilot
(Jenin De 300th in Palestine Sehit Pilot in Sahara Flight Units)

Mardin'de Sahra Demiryollari Komutani
(Sahra Railways Commander in Mardin)

Now Why the word Sahra when these units were no where near the Sahra desert?

There are many more men who show this name in there employment with the Ottoman Army?
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Sahra is an arabic word used by Turks also means field. (german Feld)

3. Sahra topçu Alayi Komutani Çanakkale'de komutan "Topçu okulu komutani
Commander of 3rd Field Artillery Regiment in Çanakkale. Commander of Artillery Academy (School)

Filistin'de Cenin'de 300. Sahra uçus birliklerinde Sehit Pilot
(Jenin De 300th in Palestine Sehit Pilot in Sahara Flight Units)

Pilot in 300th Field Flight Units at Jenin/Palestine, KIA

Mardin'de Sahra Demiryollari Komutani
(Sahra Railways Commander in Mardin)

Commander of Field Raiways in Mardin.

Now Why the word Sahra when these units were no where near the Sahra desert?

As I said before sahra is arabic. it is field (Feld) . but Sahara is huge desert. It is also arabic.In Turkey or in Palestine, Syria we dont have Sahara. In Turkey we dont have desertlands. South of Syria and Sinai, a part of Palestine has desert like places. You have also field artillery although you dont have desert or sahara :) cheers. I hope I gave sufficent information. Warmsalutations from sunny Alanya on the Mediterranean.

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 15 May 2018 23:37

Tosun,

olağanüstü

Yes that makes sence, the word Field fits most of these like;

Wertelnmann Kurt Lt 3. Sahra topçu birliginde (3rd Field artillery)

Rohlfing Capt 6.Orduda 930. Sahra topçu Birligi komutani (6th Army 930th Field artillery unit commander)

Pramann LtCol Genel Kurmay 'da Sahra Demiryollari Daire Baskani (Chief of the Field Railway Department in the General Staff)

While it looks correct for

Thierry LtCol 'da Istanbulda Sahra Demiryollari Dairesinde Kurmay Subayi (Istanbul Sub-Saharan (Field) Railway)

teşekkür ederim my friend

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 16 May 2018 15:08

Bir şey değil dostum

Thierry LtCol 'da Istanbulda Sahra Demiryollari Dairesinde Kurmay Subayi

LtCol Thierry staff officer at the field railway department in Istanbul
kurmay subay ; staff officer;
kurmay : staff
officer : subay

In Ottoman literature staff ofdicer is : erkan-ı harb,Since 1933 we use kurmay instead of erkan-ı harb.

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 07 Jun 2018 01:15

Mates,

Another one I am having trouble with?

Midilli gemisinde Subay

Google tranlate gives me

(Officer on the pony ship)

The German officer Naval Capt Von Heydebreck

Now what is meant by Pony (Midilli) here?

The rest Subay (officer) and Gemisinde (on ship) is OK

Other uses

Midilli Gemisinin topçu subayi (Artillery officer of the Midilli Gem)

Midilli (Breslau) 1 Agustos 1914 Gemi komutanlari sirasiyla (Midilli (Breslau) The ship's commanders are on the sidelines)

Filotilla Komutanlari 1914 1915 Midilli Gemisi Komutani (Filotilla Command 1914 & 1915 Midilli Ship Commander)

Midilli'de çikartma birligi komutani (Lesbos union commander)

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Jun 2018 09:00

Midilli gemisinde Subay
Google tranlate gives me (Officer on the pony ship)

ıt is a good translation but without sence. Yes Midilli is pony but is a also name of a great ottoman turkish island on Aegean see. Today greece : Lesvos.
The name of the island was given to Breslau.

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Jun 2018 09:38

Midilli Gemisinin topçu subayı (Artillery officer of the Midilli ship)

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by Tosun Saral » 08 Jun 2018 09:43

Midilli (Breslau) 1 Agustos 1914 Gemi komutanlari sirasiyla : The ship's commanders on Midilli (Breslau) are as follows:

Filotilla Komutanlari 1914 1915 Midilli Gemisi Komutani
Filotilla Commands
1914 & 1915 Midilli Ship Commander

Midilli'de çikartma birligi komutani Landing unit commander of Midiili (Breslau)

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 09 Jun 2018 01:10

Tosun,

Thank you, yes (Breslau) works with other German Naval officers also shown with Midilli in them.

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Re: Turkish to English

Post by stevebecker » 15 Jun 2018 01:22

Mates,

Here's another I am unsure of?

Afule'de su sondaji birlikleri komutani

(Water drilling units in Afule)

Now what is "Afule"

google translate does not say what it is?

The officer is Capt Bork who appears one of a number of drilling engineer officers in this sort of work?

Beyer Lt Eng Filistin'de su sondaj islerinde Yüzbasi Range'nin yardimcisi (Afghan Range in the water drilling work in Palestine)
Klingspor Lt Musul'da Petrol sondaj subayi (Oil drilling submaster in Mosul)
Range Maj Dr Filistin cephesinde su ve sondaj isleri bölümü baskani (Head of Department of Water and Drilling Affairs on the Palestinian front)

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