Ottoman Air units

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by Tosun Saral » 21 Dec 2019 09:47

They come to Polatlı only 100km to Ankara.For that reason Mustafa Kemal Pasha gave his historical command "There is no defence line but defence of surface. This surface is whole Turkey"

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 25 Dec 2019 01:25

Mates,

For interest what I found over the years on FA 301.

While it is not complete or are most names ranks and other details are as far as I can confirm?

Agterberg Fritz Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Apel Kurth Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1895 at Zeitz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Arend Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1889 at Wittenberge - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Bandefeld Walter Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Königshütte - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Barczick Alois Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Scharley - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Beduareck Josef Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1897 at Repan - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Bieneck Helmut or Hellmuth Capt Pilot Airforce OC Jasta 301 9-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1887-1972) from 4th Silesian Infantry Regt (157 IR) & FAA 243 - PoW 18-9-18 when airfield at Jenin over run Knight's Cross of the Royal House Order of Hohenzollern with swords later WWII Luftwaffe LtGen (not identiied)?
Bilo Hubert Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1889 at Coblenz - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Böhme August Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Greiz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Branzk Hermann Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Krobnik - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Broecker Carl G von Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 301 9-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 from FAA 243 (shown with Bieneck) (not identified)?
Browers Karl Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 no details? posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Calliebe Otto (Beobachter) Lt deR observer Airforce Jasta 301 - Feldflieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1893 at Züllichow ) from Regt No 268 to FA (A) 295b to Palestine 10-17 WIA 1918 (loss part of the left arm) later WWII
Damm Martin Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Wennungen - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Daum Werner ObLt Observer Airforce Jasta 300 9-16 shown Jasta 300 4-17 to Jasta 301 10-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 - Feldfliegertruppe 1917-18 (born at Danzig ) from IR 157 reported operation with Lt Schleiff to Hod Salmana claimed with Lt Schleiff a BE 12a with Lt Brasell 1 Sqn AFC & Martinsyde 25-6-17 to FA 301 WIA 12-10-17
Derckum or Derkum Walter Lt deR Observer Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1893 at Zawadski - KIA 16-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Franzen (P) was shot down by Lt Paul & Weir in BF (C4627) 1 Sqn AFC near Kefr Kaddum / Jenin
Dietrich Hermann Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Halle - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Dittmar Gustav Adolf (edgar)? Sgt / VzFeldwebel to ObLt Pilot Airforce Seaplane Sqn (Wasserfliegerabteilung) 10-15 to Jasta 300 4-16 to Jasta 301 10-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1912-17 (1890 at Olvenstedt - 1945?) from FFA 2 to FA 301 - shown ObLt Von Bulow (O) 18-6-16 - when escorting Lt Leim in AEG was shot down in Albatross D3 (D636/17) by (BF) Bristol fighters of Lt Steele 111 Sqn RFC PoW 8-10-17 captured by 11 ALH and with Lt von Thuena in Albatross D3 brought down in same action
Dormann Clemens Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1897 at Wiesbaden - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Drewes Karl Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Warne - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Driesen Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Goldbeck - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Duda Paul Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Peiskretscham - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Ebel Johannes Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1893 at Heisterhoß - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Effenberger Paul Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Dörndorf - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Ehnis Ludwig Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Altensteig - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Eisermann Johann Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Lublinitz - died 29-9-17) reported near Monslemije cause not stated?
Ernert Richard Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917- (1886 at Leipzig - KIA 15-10-17) from Jasta 34 a balloon of French 87 Cie d'Aerostieres near Genicourt France - reported Albatros D3 was shot down by Lt Sutherland 111 Sqn RFC near Abu Sitta (his grave shown KIA 1-10-18?) also claimed by a Bristol crew of 2/Lt RC Steele & 2Lt J Lloyd-Evans 111 Sqn
Franzen Hugo Friedrich Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Bochum KIA 16-8-18) from FA 8 - reported Rumpler C with Derckum (O) was shot down by Lt Paul & Weir in BF (C4627) 1 Sqn AFC near Kefr Kaddum / Jenin
Friedeck Johann Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1897 at Oberglogau - died 20-9-18) cause not stated?
Führ Fritz Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1899 at Wanfried - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Geiger Arthur Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1887 at Kiel - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Gornick Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Chorow - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Götz or Göß Max Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1882 at Kollorwitz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Grotz Robert Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Königshütte - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Haars Heinrich Lt deR Observer Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1889 at Steinlach - KIA 3-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Sauer (P) was shot down by Lt Kenny & Sutherland in BF (C4626) 1 Sqn AFC near El Afule/ Jenin
Haendly or Händly Alois Lt Observer Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1895 at Deuna - KIA 31-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Vesper (P) was shot down possibly by Lt Mcginnes & Fysh or Dowling & Mulford 1 Sqn AFC near Fejja
Hammersen Hermann Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 details not shown posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Hoffmann Bruno Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 no details shown posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Iltis Karl Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1887 at Merzweiler - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Jagow Bernhard von ObLt Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1893 at Roschinno - ) from Lieb Inf Regt No 2 posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Jonas Reinhold Sgt Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1890 at Cöpenick - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Kienast Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 no details shown posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Knoke Wilhelm Lt Observer Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1891 at Lamspringe - KIA 31-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Schilling (P) was shot down possibly by Lt Mcginnes & Fysh or Dowling & Mulford 1 Sqn AFC near Kalkilieh
Köhler Heinrich Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Walsrode - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Krecerich Theodor Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1897 at Frankfurt - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Kroll Stefan Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Szczodrzykowo - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Kulinowski Hans Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Berlin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Kurczeja Anselm Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1881 at Zawodzie - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Landefeld (Baudefeld) Walter Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Königshütte - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Laski Bernhardt Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Frauenburg - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Lindenau von Lt observer to pilot Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 photo shown with obsver Lt Wegener in AEG C4 at Jenin 12-17 (not identified)?
Maier Emil Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1895 at Tegel - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Maier Willi Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1895 at Tegel - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Maske VzFeldwebel Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 details not shown posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Mayer Alfred Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Freiburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Mayer Ernst Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 details not shown posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Mayer Freddy (Friedrich) Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 shown in photo (not identified)?
Meißel Cornelius Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 (1891 at Oberleinach - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Meser Hans Lt deR Pilot Airforce possibly Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 PoW 22-7-18 reported Rumpler C4 forced landed with Sakowsky south of Beit Lid (not identified)?
Möller Friedrich Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1891 at Libnitz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Nock Wilhelm Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1889 at Straßburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Pasold Albert Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Veilsdorf - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Pfänder Paul Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1885 at Haifa Palestine - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Pleger Reinhold Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1891 at Eggershütte - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Plum Franz Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Preker Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1897 at Herne - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW & died 5-11-18 cause not stated?
Quitsch Otto Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Königsberg - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Reck Max Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1882 at Rixdorf - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Reuter Reinhold Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1891 at Bad Ems - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Ricks Hugo Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 details not shown - shown MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Rissock Max Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1895 at Michalkowitz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Sakowsky Gustav Adolf Lt observer Airforce possibly Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 PoW 22-7-18 reported Rumpler C4 forced landed with Lt Meser (P) south of Beit Lid later German Cousul to Phillipines 1930's
Sauer Johann VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Sieg - KIA 3-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Haars (O) was shot down by Lt Kenny & Sutherland 1 Sqn AFC near El Afule/ Jenin
Schendera Viktor Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Brzezinka - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Schilling Alfred Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1889 at Braunschweig - KIA 31-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Knoke (O) was shot down possibly by Lt Mcginnes & Fysh or Dowling & Mulford 1 Sqn AFC near Kalkilieh
Schmidt Willy Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 details not shown - shown MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Schumacher Wilhelm Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1888 at Lüdenscheid - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Schwarz Adolf Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Hamburg - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Seiler Christian Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917- (1896 at Pfedelbach - DoD 30-9-17) reported died of illness at Damascus
Siebert (Seibert) Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Eschwege - died 7-10-18) reported died at Aleppo cause not stated?
Siemers Walter Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Harburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Skeide Richard Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1893 at Saarau - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Skwortz Richard Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Zahbrze - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Tasche Willi Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 details not shown - shown MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Thomaneck Hugo Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Scharley - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Tschöpe Otto Sgt Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1884 at Kolaczkowice - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Vesper Hermann Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Warburg - KIA 31-8-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Haendly (O) was shot down possibly by Lt Mcginnes & Fysh or Dowling & Mulford 1 Sqn AFC near Fejja Mullebis
Voigt Franz Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1886 at Saalfeld - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Vorbeck August Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1890 at Westensee - died 28-9-18) at Aleppo possibly illness
Wagner Max Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1890 at Burg - died 13-11-18) at Halle posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW cause not stated?
Wallowski Hermann Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1886 at Ristzin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Weber Philipp Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1896 at Dittelsheim - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Wegener Carl August Lt deR Observer Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 from FAA 243 (shown with Bieneck) photo shown observer to von Lindenau in AEG C4 at Jenin 12-17
Wegener Hermann Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1897 at Letter - died 16-7-18) reported died at Aleppo from FAA 243 with Bieneck and Broecker
Wiedemann Paul Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1894 at Eberswalde - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Wyrschowi Paul Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1892 at Breslau - ) posted MIA 20-9-18 possibly PoW
Zimny Franz Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 301 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 301 1917-18 (1898 at Borroschau - died 26-10-18) near Konia shown buried German Military Cemetery Istanbul cause not stated? Sammelgrab 1


Reported losses to FA 301 (shown in a sheet on them)

On September 25, 1917, an AEG was shot down by Royal Air Force aircraft.

The FA301 lost 6 planes in August 1918 (one on 3 and one on 16, two on 28 and two on 31).

There were of cause others brought down if you go through the list.

Other German Air units later

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 10 Jan 2020 00:22

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Again these are what I found but can never be seen as complete list, only a start for someone looking into these units.

Aldenhoff Franz Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1896 at Menzeln - DoD 17-10-18) died of illness at Aleppo
Bernhard Kasimir Lt deR Observer Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1888 at Warsaw KIA 11-5-18) shown DoW 11-5-18 reported shot down with Gonnella by Lt Palmer in SE5a (B51) 111 Sqn RFC at Jerusalem
Billhardt Kurt Flieger Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917s (1898 at Grimma DoD 10-11-17) of illness at Jerusalem buried Sionsberg Cemetery Jerusalem
Böttcher Erwin Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1890 at Dresden - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW & died 13-11-18 cause not stated?
Bussche-Streithorst Karl Freiherr von dem Capt Observer Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917- (1888 at Dresden DoA 17-12-17) Rittmister from Garde-Reiter Regt & FAA 63 reported died from wounds after crash in dog fight near Al Afule brother Albrecht died
Coenen Leo Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1894 at Köln - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Deilmann Heinrich Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917s (1895 at Dortmund - KIA 12-12-17) from FAR 11 to Pilot Jasta 30 to Palestine 1917 reported shot down in Albatros D3 by Lt Drummond & Knowles 111 Sqn RFC near Tul Karem
Domagala Josef Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1896 at Zabno - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Elias Hermann Capt Dr Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 formed in Prussia 12-7-17 (shown OC) - Flieger-Abteilung 302 to OC Jasta 305 9-18 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 to OC Jasta 305 1918 (replaced Steiner) possibly PoW 21-9-18 (not identified)
Gonnella (Gonella) Adolf Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1897 at Cologne KIA 11-5-18) from FAA 212 reported shot down with Bernhard by Lt Palmer in SE5a (B51) 111 Sqn RFC at Jerusalem
Götze Kurt Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1888 at Pößneck - died 19-10-18) near Bozanti grave at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? Sammelgrab 1
Haken Hermann Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917s (1888 at Lyck - KIA 4-12-17) possibly shot down in Albatros D3 by Lt Peck 111 Sqn RFC near Tul Karem
Heim Josef Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1892 at Hecheln - died 16-7-18) of illness in Palestine
Holzhausen Rudolf Hermann Johannes Capt Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 also shown Jasta 302 in photo album to Yildrim 1918 1917-18 (1889 at Thuringia died 1963) from Cavalry to FAA 17 later WWII employed at the Research Office 1945 to the Bavarian Ministry of Economic Affairs
Irmischer Rudolf Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1895 at Dresden - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Klatte Hinrich Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917s (1885 at Arsten - KIA 7-11-17) from MTCo to pilot flying school Fürstenwalde to Palestine 1917 reported shot down in Albatros D3 by Lt Peck & Williams 111 Sqn RFC near El Huleikat Tul kerim
König (Koeing) possibly Friedrich (Alfred?) Capt Pilot Airforce OC Jasta 302 9-17 (Filistin'de 203. Uçus filosu komutani (203rd Flight fleet commander in Palestine) 1917-18 possibly from FAA 17 in Macedonia shown commander 10-17 to 10-18 (not identified)?
Koopmann Gerhard Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1892 at Hamburg KIA 13-6-18) from FA 225 in France to Palestine 1917 reported shot down with Kreusler by Lt Paul & Weir in BF (C4627) 1 Sqn AFC near Jenin
Kreusler Erich Lt Observer Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1895 at Gr.-Gandern KIA 13-6-18) reported shot down with Koopmann by Lt Paul & Weir 1 Sqn AFC near Jenin
Krumm Joseph Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 also shown Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1892 at Balg i. B DoD 12/13-10-18) of illness near Aleppo from 3Sqn/Dragoner-Regiment 22 WIA 2-15 & 11-15
Lehmann Alfred Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1898 at Berlin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Majunke Paul Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1892 at Breslau - died 13-2-18) possibly illness near Amman
Maune Oswin Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1892 at Possendorf Dresden - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Niedzielski Wladislaus Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1895 at Krotoschin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Noffz Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1891 at Kiel - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Pueschel Konrad Lt staff Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917- (1879 - 1956) from FAA 17 RTG Fliegerstabs-Offizier im Generalstab des Armeeoberkommando 12 (not identified)?
Puff Walter Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1896 at Landsberg - died 12-10-18) near Aleppo possibly illness
Schmarbeck Arnim Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1897 at Berlin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW & died 1-12-18 cause not stated?
Schmidtner Anton Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1899 at München - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Steinacker Albin Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1894 at Kindelbrück - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Steiner Elias Erich Capt observer Airforce Jasta 300 - Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (300th Sqn in Palestine) shown OC Armee Flugpark F all of the shops and spare aircraft was based Damascus 9-17 to OC Jasta 305 (other said Jasta 302?) 3-18 - Filistin'de 305. Uçus filosu komutani (305th Sqn in Palestine Flight fleet commander) said to Jasta 305 7-18 & CO jasta 305 10-18 (after death of Ziegler) ? shown OC Jasta 303 9-18 1917-18 (1883 - died 29-8-43 heart attack) from 123rd Gren R arrived 3-18 shown shot down Lt Steele 111 Sqn RFC near Kafr Qasim or Mulebbis 10-4-18 from 27 July to 18 August and vice-commander from 15 September to 20 October 1918 to Commander from October 20 1918 at the end of the war
Tietz Werner Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1896 at Schattewitz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Vairetm Capt staff Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 shown CO in photo with Capt Waltz FA 304b
Walther Willy Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1896 at Cassel - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Withof Georg Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 - Flieger-Abteilung 302 1917-18 (1896 at Sterkrade - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW

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Re: Ottoman Air units

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Arlt Alfred Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1894 at Oschatz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Berner Karl Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1897 at Berlin - ) posted MIA 25-9-18 possibly PoW
Brandes Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1898 at Kloster - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Brüggemann Georg Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1897 at Hannover - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Bruns Albert Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1893 at Harburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Bühl Ernst VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1895 at Nürnberg KIA 30-7-18) reported shot down near Bet Dejenin Palestine
Chamier von (possibly Wolfgang von Chamier-Glisczinski) Lt observer Airforce Jasta 300 Sahra uçus birliklerinde (In the Field Flight troops) shown on grave Jasta 303 1916-18 (1894 at Hagan KIA 22-8-43) airplane crashed near Sisak Croatia from Inf Regt No 143 to reported MIA possibly KIA 19-2-18 (not confirmed in any grave records?) possibly with Meyer (P) shot down in Rumpler C1 by Lt Stent in SE5 (B26) 111 Sqn RFC near Jerusalem later WWII Col Luftwaffe of Kampfgeschwader 3 "Blitz" 1939 - 41 to Gen-Lt Fliegerführer Kroatien 1943
Ehlig Gerhard Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1893 at Leubsdorf - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Engelke Georg Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1888 at Hiddestorf Hannover - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Fiedler Karl Kraftfarher Dvr ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1892 at Frankfurt - died 4-10-18) at Aleppo cause not stated?
Geissler Louis Sgt ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1892 at Linden DoA 25-5-18) at Samakh shown He belonged to the ground staff of the aviation department and crashed in the Jordan and drowned
Giesen Karl Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1897 at Berg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Hannes Josef Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1899 at Herdorf - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Heiden Hermann Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1896 at Greifswald - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Holzhausen Rudolf Hermann Johannes Capt Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 also shown Jasta 302 in photo album to Yildrim 1918 1917-18 (1889 at Thuringia died 1963) from Cavalry to FAA 17 later WWII employed at the Research Office 1945 to the Bavarian Ministry of Economic Affairs
Jakobs Bernhard Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1898 at Barneberg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Käckell Rudolf D Arzt Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1890 at Gera - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Kepler Georg Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1891 at Petersthal - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Kleemann Johann Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1898 at Völlen - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Krause Karl Sgt Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1890 at Wörmlitz - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Krumm Joseph Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 302 also shown Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1892 at Balg i. B DoD 12/13-10-18) of illness near Aleppo from 3Sqn/Dragoner-Regiment 22 WIA 2-15 & 11-15
Kuchenbuch Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 reported WIA 30-7-18 in Rumpler C with Lt Wegner (O) killed when shot down by Lt Kenny & Sutherland 1 Sqn AFC near Ed Damia/ Jordan (not identified)?
Künsberg (Kinsberg) Rüdiger Freiherr Von Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b 9-17 to (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel F1 (on grave) also shown as Jasta 303 1917-18 (1898 at München KIA 8-6-18) Bavarian from FA (A) 226 shown sick of malaria managed a crash landing in accident at Afule 10-11-17 reported KIA 8-6-18 shot down near Tul Karem by Lt Gledhill 111 Sqn RFC attacked a formation of two enemy two-seaters and three Albatros D.Vs just east of Tabor. He engaged one just north of Tul Keram and shot it down reporting that the tail fell off as it dived down into clouds
Ladwig Ernst Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1891 at Görsdorf - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW shown WIA 6-9-17
Löw Johann Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1891 at Recklinghausen - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Markus Paul Unteroffizier possibly Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1896 at Kobschütz - died 20-9-18) in Palestine gerichtlich für tot erklärt (judicially declared dead) cause not stated?
Metzky Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 from FA (A) 226 with Seidel (not identified)?
Meyer Gustav Georg Heinrich Gefr / Unteroffizier Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 FlugzF - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1892 at Hamburg - KIA 19-2-18) shown with Lt Chamier (O) shot down in Rumpler C1 by Lt Stent in SE5 (B26) 111 Sqn RFC near Jerusalem
Möller Otto Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1888 at Dobertin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Müller Hugo Sanit Unteroffizier Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1884 at Ludwigshafen KIA 30-7-18) at Bet-Deejnin reported shot down no details
Nädelin Eugen Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1897 at Ebersbach - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Schroth Guenther Lt deR Pilot Airforce (Jasta 300) to Jasta 303 11-17 (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel F1 shown Jasta 2 (F) Jagdstaffel F2 1-18 to 11-18 1917-18 (1894-1945) from Jasta 19 & FAA 42 1917 to Turkey 1917 RTG 11-18 later WWII Maj Gen Luftwaffe Admin comds att Paracute Army 3-45 WIA 8-4-45 DoW 2-6-45 in Holland
Schuchert Emil Flieger Airforce shown Jasta 303 10-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917s (1892 at Leipzig - KIA 9-11-17 or 13-11-17 on grave) claimed shot down with Lt Wilop by Peck and Lloyd-Williams at El-Tine also shown He died during a bomber attack by 40 Sqn RFC on El Tine
Schulz Willi Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1895 at Kotzenau - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Schumburg (Schaumburg) Henry Sgt to ObLt to Capt observer Airforce Jasta 300 4-16 T/OC (heemskerk in hosp) 4-16 to 5-16 to Adjt 5-16 RTG 9-16 rtn (pilot) OC Jasta 303 9-17 - Pilot ve Filistin'de 303. Uçus filosu komutani (Jasta 303 in Palestine is commander) 1916-18 from IR 76 - replaced Soyter & observer to Dittmar replaced by Lt Koeing 7-16 shown WIA 18-6-16 back shot when obsver to Sgt Kahnt reported 2 pilots and 8 groundcrew WIA in air raid by 14 Sqn RFC & 17 Sqn RFC on airfield at El Arish RTG 9-16 rtn with FA 303 9-17
Schuster Georg Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1880 at Berlin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Schwindecke Wilhelm Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1892 at Berlin - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Seidel Hans Joachim Lt Observer Airforce Jasta 303 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 from FA (A) 226 with Metzky
Sprenger Viktor Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1898 at Forbach - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Steiner Elias Erich Capt observer Airforce Jasta 300 - Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (300th Sqn in Palestine) shown OC Armee Flugpark F all of the shops and spare aircraft was based Damascus 9-17 to OC Jasta 305 (other said Jasta 302?) 3-18 - Filistin'de 305. Uçus filosu komutani (305th Sqn in Palestine Flight fleet commander) said to Jasta 305 7-18 & CO jasta 305 10-18 (after death of Ziegler) ? shown OC Jasta 303 9-18 1917-18 (1883 - died 29-8-43 heart attack) from 123rd Gren R arrived 3-18 shown shot down Lt Steele 111 Sqn RFC near Kafr Qasim or Mulebbis 10-4-18 from 27 July to 18 August and vice-commander from 15 September to 20 October 1918 to Commander from October 20 1918 at the end of the war
Steinkrausz Lt Observer Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 shown photo taken of Gaza by Holzhausen & Steinkrausz
Sür Karl Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1893 at Straßburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Wabnitz Felix Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1884 at Leipzig - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Wefers Gerhard Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1895 at Hochemmerich - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Weger Hermann Lt / Beobachter Observer Airforce Jasta 303 7-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1893 at Berlin - KIA 30-7-18) reported Rumpler C with Lt Kuchenbuch WIA was shot down by Lt Kenny & Sutherland 1 Sqn AFC near Ed Damia/ Jordan
Wilop Hermann Lt / Flieger Airforce shown Jasta 303 10-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917s (1897 at Dessau - KIA 9-11-17 or 13-11-17 on grave) reported shot down with Lt Schuchert by Lt Peck and Lloyd-Williams at El-Tine also shown died during a bomber attack by No. 40 Sqn RFC at El Tine buried Nazareth Israel
Winberg Gustav Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1881 at Harburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Witteweg Ernst Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1898 at Ilsenburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Wrede Johann Gefr ground crew Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917- (1891 at Berlin - KIA 31-10-17 or 13-10-17 on grave) at Et Tine possibly during a air raid at El Tine
Zaus Leopold Unteroffizier Pilot Airforce Jasta 303 - Flieger-Abteilung 303 1917-18 (1894 at Katzdorf KIA 30-7-18) reported shot down near Bet-Dejenin (Palästina)

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FA 304 or Bavarian 304 or FA 304(B)

A large number of men here but many not confirmed?

Albrecht Konrad Sgt Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1888 at Behringersdorf - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Ast Fritz ObLt observer Airforce Jasta 304b 9-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 304b 1917-18 (1888 at Wurmberg - KIA 20-9-18) Ex Bavarian 12th IR reported killed by Aust LH when airfield captured with Lt Schürer wounded & PoW near El Afule
Banzhaf Adolf Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1891 at Augsburg - ) posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Berthold Fritz ObLt observer Airforce Jasta 300 1-16 shown Tech officer RTG 2-17 later Adjt Jasta 304b 10-17 shown last OC of Jasta 304b (possibly after Walz captured) 11-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1916-17 Bavarian from FAA 5b shown observer to Euringer in attack on seaplane carrier (Ben-my-Chree?) 16-4-16 near Gaza & bombed Port Said 21-4-16 shown Rumpler CI with pilot Euringer forced down a Short (8091) seaplane from HMS Raven with Lt Brooke & Smith spotting near Mazar 10-8-16 shown obsver to Schultheiss 12-16 RTG 2-17 rtn with Jasta 304b 9-17 reported WIA 26-6-18 Shot down and seriously injured with Fischer (O) RTG (not identifed)?
Breitenbach Bruno ObLt Pilot Airforce jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (born at Hofstädten ) from Bavarian Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment 4 WIA 1915 to Airforce reported WIA 8-11-17 with Scheler in dogfight with Lt Peck & Williams 111 Sqn RFC in air raid in Wadi es-Sarar where the airfield west of the village of 'Araq el-Manshiya - shot down with Lt Saradeth 24-5-18
Didion Johann Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1894 at Mittelbexbach - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Eichinger Johann Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Moersch - DoD 11-9-18) of illness near Derat-Nazareth Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Emslander (Zander) Georg VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian reported WIA 10-8-18 with Stein (O) make a emergency landing 5 km east from Schatta lost one of its last Rumpler C reason not stated (not identified)
Engel Lt observer Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian photo of christmas party with Jasta 304b (not identified)
Enzler Johann Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1899 at Anried - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Erhart Sebastian Flieger / Pnr Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1893 at München DoD 24-1-19) of illness near Danzig
Fasching Franz von ObLt to Lt observer Airforce shown Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917- Bavarian Shot down & WIA 23-5-17 reported in combat with two fighters near over Wadi Sarar make a emergency landing at Tulkerim aerodrome with broken spring in the valve of the exhaustpipe (not identified)
Fergg Lt Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian photo of christmas party with Jasta 304b (not identified)
Feulner Leonhard Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1899 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Fischer Veit August ObLt observer Airforce Jasta 304b 8-17 Uçus filosunda (In the aircraft fleet) to Flieger-Beobachter-Schule 1 Schleißheim 8-18 to Führer Fliegerabteilung "Fischer" 10-18 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1890 at Landshut 1966) Bavarian from Kampfstaffel 34b added 23-5-16 WIA Lazarett to FAA 288 to Palestine 8-17
Flöhl Adolf Flieger Staff Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917- Bavarian (1899 at Schweinfurt - DoA 12-11-17) shown grave 14-11-17 near El Lubban Nablus reported during retreat from Arak airfield one of the trucks crashed into a steep gorge and 3 men killed with Peter & Schmeler in the evacuation of Jerusalem buried Sionsberg Cemetery Jerusalem
Forster (Förster) von (possibly Maximilian) ObLt Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian photo of christmas party with Jasta 304b (not identified)
Friedlander ObLt Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian DoA date? (not identified)
Gabler Karl Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Eichstätt - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Gierl Matthias Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1899 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Gogeißl Franz Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1899 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Göpfert Franz Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Haunstetten - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Haas Robert Sanit Sgt Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1892 at Wiesbaden - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Habermann Karl Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1879 at Effeldorf - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Hauck Lt deR Observer Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian WIA 29-1-18 reported AEG CIV forced landed when wounded with Lt Haugg wounded in dog fight by Lt Fleming 111 Sqn RFC near Bahnhof Nazareth (not identified)?
Haugg Ludwig Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b 8-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1893 at Buttenwiesen - KIA 29-1-18) Bavarian from 8th Chev Regt to FAA 6b WIA at Darnisions-Lazarett Saarburg shot down British Pup with Capt Smith 66th Sqn near Noyelles France (1 victory) to Palestine to hosp (sick) 10-17 rtn 11-17 reported AEG C4 forced landed when wounded with Lt Hauck wounded in dog fight by Lt Fleming 111 Sqn RFC near Bahnhof Nazareth shown KIA reported died from wounds
Hebauer Johann Gefr / Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1892 at Amberg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Heidschuch Erich Lt deR Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1888 at Wachenheim - ) Bavarian from 17 IR posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Held Karl Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1889 at Pappenheim - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Herramhof Albert Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian (1898 at Regensburg DoD 17-10-18) of illness near Adana buried German Military Cemetery Istanbul
Heussenstamm (Heußenstamm) Karl Lt deR Observer Airforce Jasta 304b 8-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1890 at München died 1930 in the USA) Bavarian from 7th bayer.Feld-Artillerie-Regiment kommandiert to Fliegerabteilung (A) 286b 1915-17 to FA (A) 287b 1917 to Palestine 8-17 shown to (Feldlazarett 213) hosp (malaria) 9-17 & (blind arm irritation) 9-18 RTG 7-18 to Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung 2b (not identified)
Hoffmann Friedrich VzFeldwebel / Feldwebel Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1892 at Berlin - ) Bavarian reported with Lt Zander in combat with two fighters near over Wadi Sarar make a emergency landing at Tulkerim aerodrome with broken spring in the valve of the exhaust pipe
Hüfner (Haefner) Victor Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b 3-18 to Jasta 300 or Jasta 2 (F) Jagdstaffel F2 reported with 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 6-18 1917-18 Bavarian photo when plane broken wing midair with Albatros D5 (5350/17) near Nablus and shown flew Albatros D5a (5360/17) claimed shot down an unknown aircraft with 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 27-6-18 (not identified)
Hummel Jakob Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1891 at Landau - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Joos Friedrich (Paul) Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian (1894 at Speyer - DoD 11-10-18) of illness near Bozanti i Taurus buried German Military Cemetery Istanbul Sammelgrab 1
Kleiser Edwin Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1889 at Furtwangen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Klötzer Hans Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1897 at Innsbruck - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Krebel Welar Feldwebel Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian (not identified)
Krebs Anton Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Dillingen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Krehle Heinrich Sgt / Feldwebel Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b 8-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1892 at München - ) Bavarian wrote an account of his service posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Kreuzer Simon Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1891 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Künsberg (Kinsberg) Rüdiger Freiherr Von Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b 9-17 to (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel F1 (on grave) also shown as Jasta 303 1917-18 (1898 at München KIA 8-6-18) Bavarian from FA (A) 226 shown sick of malaria managed a crash landing in accident at Afule 10-11-17 reported KIA 8-6-18 shot down near Tul Karem by Lt Gledhill 111 Sqn RFC attacked a formation of two enemy two-seaters and three Albatros D.Vs just east of Tabor. He engaged one just north of Tul Keram and shot it down reporting that the tail fell off as it dived down into clouds
Lang Georg Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1884 at Ludwigsfeld - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Lechner Sebastian Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1892 at Utting - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Liepold Johann Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1882 at Gungolding - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Loitfelder Johann Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Lottes Johannes VzFeldwebel Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (died 17-10-18) commemoration at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? (not identified) Bavarian
Maier Matthias Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1899 at Moosburg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Meichelböck Franz Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1894 at Weicht - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Ming Ludwig Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1893 at Häringdorf DoD 10-18) at Kantara in Gefangenschaft (in prison) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Naderer Ludwig Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Bogen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Oßwald Wenzeslaus Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1889 at Schrobenhausen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Parzinger Joseph Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1895 at Altenmarkt - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Peter Julius Gefr ground crew Staff Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917- (1899 at Siegburg - DoA 12-11-17) grave shows 14-11-17 near El Lubban reported during retreat from Arak airfield one of the trucks crashed into a steep gorge and 3 men killed with Flöhl & Schmeler in the evacuation of Jerusalem buried Sionsberg Cemetery Jerusalem Bavarian
Pilhofer Johann Stellvertreter stellvertreter Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b 1917-18 (1887 at Neukirchen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Rehm (possibly Lothar) Lt deR Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1895 - ?) Bavarian possibly FA 36 1916 to FA 33 claimed a balloon of French 85e Compagnie d'Aerostieres at Gironville 14-2-17 - photo of christmas party with Jasta 304b
Reichhard Josef Unteroffizier Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1893 at Ludwigshafen died 1-11-18) grave at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW & died 1-11-18
Rillig Paul Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Ludwigshafen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Rinnagel Johann Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1879 at Kirchenthumbach - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Rogler Hans Flieger (Flieg.Abt. 304b) Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian (1898 at Gefrees - DoD 19-11-18 in the Laz Skutari) at Haidar-Pascha grave at Tarabya Istanbul Sammelgrab 2
Roth Christoph Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Nürnberg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Rumburger Franz Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Rosenheim - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Sander (Sandner) Bruno Kraftfarher Dvr ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Sindlingen - DoD 7-10-18) near Bozanti i. Taurus buried German Military Cemetery Istanbul Sammelgrab 1 Bavarian
Saradeth (Max) Lt observer Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (born possibly at Ruhpolding ) Bavarian shot down with Lt Breitenbach (P) 24-5-18
Scheler Rolf Lt observer Airforce shown Jasta 304b 10-17 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917- (born 8-2-1893 at Aeschach died 8-11-17 or DoW 13-11-17) Bavarian from 4 IR reported WIA 8-11-17 with Lt Breitenbach (P) in dogfight with Lt Peck & Williams 111 Sqn RFC in British air raid in Wadi es-Sarar where the airfield west of the village of 'Araq el-Manshiya DoW 13-11-17 in Jerusalem buried Sionsberg Cemetery Jerusalem
Scheuermann Friedrich Wachtmeister stellvertreter Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1891 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Schmelzer or Schmeler Stephan Pnr ground crew Staff Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917- Bavarian (1899 at Burgoberbach - DoA 12-11-17) grave shows 14-11-17 reported during retreat from Arak airfield one of the trucks crashed into a steep gorge and 3 men killed (Flöhl & Peter) near El Lubban reported died in a car accident in the evacuation of Jerusalem buried Sionsberg Cemetery Jerusalem
Schmidt Johann Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Innsbruck - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Schneider Anton Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Schöps Nikolaus Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1891 at Gärtenroth - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Schreiber Lt pilot or observer Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian shown in photo with unknown crewman
Schürer Ludwig VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce Jasta 304b 7-18 - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian (1891 at Augsburg - ) from FAA 288 - shown PoW 20-9-18 reported wounded by Aust LH when airfield captured with Lt Ast killed near El Afule shown DoW 9-10-18 listed on panel in Jerusalem
Schuster Otto Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Ungerhausen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Schwendemann Hugo Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Bäumenheim - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Sigmund Friedrich Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1894 at Heidenheim - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Silber Julius Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1897 at Kitzingen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Sinnerbichler Stephan Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Sommer Karl Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Aschaffenburg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Steigerwald Georg Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Rotenberg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Steigerwald Richard Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Eichenberg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Stein Lt observer Airforce shown Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1918's Bavarian reported WIA 10-8-18 with Emslander (P) make a emergency landing 5 km east from Schatta lost one of its last Rumpler C reason not stated
Stoeckl (Stöckl) (Strötzel) Alois Lt observer Airforce Jasta 304b birliklerinde (in unit) - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1918's Bavarian (born 1895 to KIA 14-8-40) Ex 1 FAR to Bavarian FA 48 6-17 to Bavarian FA 304 later WWII Col Luftwaffe shot down in HE 111 on Alder Tag over England
Tiersch Fritz Gefr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1897 at Chemnitz - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Ulrich Lt Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian photo of christmas party with Jasta 304b
Unbekannt Mechaniker Unknown Pnr (Unknown mechanic) airforce unit unknown possibly Jasta 304b 1917-18 Bavarian KIA 20-9-18 listed on panel in Jerusalem possibly killed by Aust LH when airfield captured
Vogler Adam Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Himmelkron - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Wachter Eduard Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1882 at Nieraz - died 4-5-19) at El Kantara in Gefangenschaft (in prison) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 PoW
Wairz Lt Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian shown in photo
Walz Franz Joseph Capt Pilot Airforce OC Jasta 304b 8-17 (215 men) 9 pilots & 7 obvers squadron was put together in Schleissheim at Munich) Uçus filosu komutani Yeriko Kartali (Flight fleet commander Yeriko Eagle) 1917-18 Bavarian (1885 at Speyer - died 1945) - from Jasta Boelcke - PoW 20-9-18 when airfield at Afuleh over run Pour le Merite (7 victories) later Luftwaffe Gen/Lt dying in Polish captivity end of war
Weiner Franz Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1895 at Karolinenthal - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Weiß Karl Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1899 at Straubing - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Weißenberger Georg Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Würzburg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Welschinger Eugen Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Berlingen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Werner Heinrich Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1893 at München - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Werther Karl Pte Airforce Armee-Flugpark der Heeresgruppe F att Jasta 304b 1917-18 (1898 at Windischeschenbach
Winterbauer Lt Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian photo of christmas party with Jasta 304b
Wohlsperger Karl Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1898 at Ebenhausen - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run
Zander (Emslander) Martin Lt to Capt Airforce shown Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 Bavarian possibly FAA 90 (2 victories) stopped flying 11-16 due to illness shown with Vzfw Hoffmann WIA 10-8-18 possibly wrong name?
Ziesenhenne Karl Pnr Ground crew Airforce Jasta 304b - Flieger-Abteilung 304 1917-18 (1896 at Thale - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW when airfield at Afoule over run

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 10 Jan 2020 01:14

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FA 305

This is the lowest number of men, possibly because it was intergrated into other units.

Bastanier (Bastogne) Konrad Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 305 1 mayista 305 nci Bölükten Bastogne ve Strotzel, Amman üzerinde bir DH dört bombardiman tayyaresi düsürdüler (On May 1 Bastogne and Stroetzel of the 305th Company dropped a DH four bombardment planes over Amman) 1917-18 AEG C4 claimed shot down four enemy planes with obsver Strotzel over the Palestine Front during WWI 1x balloon 29-11-17 claimed 2x planes 1-5-18 claimed shot down a DH 4 bomber near Amman 1-5-18 (not identified)?
Elias Hermann Capt Dr Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 formed in Prussia 12-7-17 (shown OC) - Flieger-Abteilung 302 to OC Jasta 305 9-18 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 to OC Jasta 305 1918 (replaced Steiner) possibly PoW 21-9-18 (not identified)
Fritz Erich Lt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 (1896 at Sterkrade KIA 15-9-18) possibly shot down with Ziegler by Lt Murphy & Hawley 1 Sqn AFC near Deraa shown at Qasr el Azraq (130 km east of Amman)
Golombeck Eduard Flieger ground crew Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 (1895 at Friedberg - died 12-10-18) died of illness near Bozanti i. Taurus buried German Military Cemetery "Istanbul
Habenberger Flieger Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 no details
Herhot or Herud Heinrich Sgt observer Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 WIA 3-7-18 reported with Hohenteu in dog fight near Damie (not identified)
Hohentau Unteroffizier Pilot Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 WIA 3-7-18 reported with Sgt Herhot in dog fight near Damie (not identified)
Kastenmuller Flieger Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 no details shown
Komm Fritz Flieger Ground crew Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 (1896 at Angerburg - ) Bavarian posted MIA 9-18 possibly PoW
Kranz Lt Pilot Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1918's reported shot down a British plane near the bedouins 9-8-18 (not identified)
Mackenthun Elias Walter Capt deR Pilot Airforce Jasta 305 shown OC 2-18 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1918- (not identified)?
Scheel Flieger Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1917-18 no details (not identified)?
Schneidewind Gustav VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce Jasta 305 1-18 to (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel F1 1-18 to 5-18 1918's (1890 - ?) from FAR 29 & FAR 305 to Jasta 17 (4 victories) - shown in Albatros D5a claimed 3 victories claimed a balloon possibly Lt Hargreaves KIA from 50th KBS also claimed by Lt Kunz 8-5-18 & a balloon 9-5-18 and EA 5-18 in Palestine shown PoW & WIA 23-5-18 in both arms during a dog fight with Lt Carrick & Paul or McGinness? 1 Sqn AFC
Steiner Elias Erich Capt observer Airforce Jasta 300 - Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (300th Sqn in Palestine) shown OC Armee Flugpark F all of the shops and spare aircraft was based Damascus 9-17 to OC Jasta 305 (other said Jasta 302?) 3-18 - Filistin'de 305. Uçus filosu komutani (305th Sqn in Palestine Flight fleet commander) said to Jasta 305 7-18 & CO jasta 305 10-18 (after death of Ziegler) ? shown OC Jasta 303 9-18 1917-18 (1883 - died 29-8-43 heart attack) from 123rd Gren R arrived 3-18 shown shot down Lt Steele 111 Sqn RFC near Kafr Qasim or Mulebbis 10-4-18 from 27 July to 18 August and vice-commander from 15 September to 20 October 1918 to Commander from October 20 1918 at the end of the war
Strotzel Edwin ObLt observer Airforce Jasta 305 1 mayista 305 nci Bölükten Bastogne ve Strotzel, Amman üzerinde bir DH dört bombardiman tayyaresi düsürdüler (On May 1 Bastogne and Stroetzel of the 305th Company dropped a DH four bombardment planes over Amman) 1918- AEG C4 claimed shot down four enemy planes with pilot Bastanier over the Palestine Front during WWI - claimed shot down a DH 4 bomber near Amman 1-5-18
Wandel Adolf Unteroffizier ground crew Airforce Jasta 305 - Flieger-Abteilung 305 1918's (1892 at Jauer - died 24-3-18) at Aleppo cause not stated?
Wappenhans Waldemar Lt to Capt Pilot Airforce Jasta 300 Filistin'de 300. Uçus filosunda (300th Sqn in Palestine) rtn Jasta 305 1918 1917-18 (1891 at Berlin ) from 239th IR to FAA 55 WIA 12-15 to Palestine RTG 2-17 rtn with Jasta 305 reported wounded in Beirut ?-9-18 no details
Ziegler Kurt Wigand von und Klipphausen Capt observer Airforce Jasta 300 2-18 to 4-18 to Jasta 305 shown OC 4-18 to 7-18 to Germany leave rtn 8-18 1917-18 (1888 at Liegnitz - KIA 15-9-18) Ex Rittmister Jäger-Regiment zu Pferde Nr. 2 to FAA 230 1917 to Jasta 49 12-17 to 2-18 possibly shot down with Fritz by Lt Murphy & Hawley 1 Sqn AFC near Deraa shown at Qasr el Azraq (130 km east of Amman)
Zilles Lt Staff Airforce shown Jasta 300 Uçus filosunda emir subayi (300 Commandant in airplane fleet) adjutant or aide-de-camp Jasta 300 also shown Jasta 305 1917-18 no details?

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by Tosun Saral » 13 Jan 2020 17:39

My friend Air Master Sergeant (R) Salim Dikduran wrote a very good 484 paged book on Turkish Air Units during Ottoman and republican period. The book was published in August 2019. He thanked me also in his dedication. I receicedthe book during my vocation at Mediterranian Coast in Alanya .
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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 14 Jan 2020 00:45

Tosun,

Interesting mate.

I recieved Ole's book for Christmas, so I have been going threw it at present and checking the names with what I have from other sourses.

My problems with Ottoman names has been a struggle likewise also German names.

But once I gather all the names together and make some sence of them, I'll place the Ottoman names here so other can check them out and do better then poor me.

Do you know if Air Master Sergeant (R) Salim Dikduran book is to be translated into English, as his take on many actions by Ottoman aircrew would be of interest.

Cheers

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 15 Jan 2020 00:12

Mates,

The use of Ottoman names has me, at times, beat. But as always we try to see the light throw the trees.

Lets look at one such name;

Cemal

Now records and or sourses show a Lt Cemal a number of times with a number of units, so who is he?

Well, I have found at lest 15 men named Cemal with the Ottoman Airforce during the wars between 1914-22

Lets look at one;

Ahmet Cemal

Well he is shown in sourses as either;

Cemal

A.Cemal, or

Ahmet Cemal

Which is right? as he is shown by all three names?

What about

Cemal

M.Cemal

Mehmet Cemal

Now we can see that a Lt Cemal could be either Mehmet or Ahmet, but we should also remember that there was a Osman Cemal

So when going threw the names I will post here remember that the name could be used more them once, so I hope you are better then me.

As an example;

Ahmet Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce 4th Sqn 12-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cemal Efendi Pilot Airforce NCO - officer cadet DoW 25-7-22 (from Turgutlu) - War of Independence reported shot down in a Bregue XIV with Bahattin (O) by Greek pilot Sgt Christoforos Stavropoulos in Spad 7 from Moire D (Sqn) reported shot down a Breguet 14 in the north of Afyon Karahissar
Ahmet Cemal Efendi pilot Airforce Naval Air school Deniz Uçak Okulu 1915 to 2nd Seaplane Sqn 5-17 shown OC (from Ihsan) 9-17 to 12-17 Lt to Capt Naval Training Yesilköy 10-14 shown Gotha WD13 (Eregli2) attacked two Russian Destroyers damaging one 11-10-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cemal Efendi (Turgutlu) pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn 8-17 Sgt Mesopotamia reported Rumpler C1 (RK1) (Ex 1832/15) shot down a British plane with Basri (P) around the Euphrates 22-3-18 (1 victory) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cemalettin Efendi Pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Bey Staff Airforce OC first Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) 1912 Maj replaced after crashing aircraft 1913
Cemal Efendi Pilot/observr Airforce Capt one of first pilots licence 972 1912 Trained in France flew over Tenedos 2-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Efendi (Ulusoy) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn to 2nd Sqn 1-16 to 12th Sqn 6-16 Lt dropped bombs on the British HMS Majestic 1-3-15 to Mesopotamia 1916 shown Albatros C1 (AK3) newly formed 12th Sqn with Nuzhet (O) 6-16 sick to hosp (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Sami Efendi Observer Airforce 4th Sqn 12-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Sami Efendi pilot Airforce Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Cemal Efendi Airforce OC 2nd Sqn 1-19 Capt War of Independance shown 4 (P) 4 (O) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Cemal Bey Observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 6-16 Maj first director of the Flight Training School in Yesilköy 1912 to Medina
Mehmet Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Cemal Efendi pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 1915 Lt trained at Yesilköy 1914 shown with Lt Sadullah (O) 6-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Cemal Efendi Observer Airforce Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)

Cheers and have a very good new year.

S.B

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 15 Jan 2020 23:40

Mates,

Lets look at the 1st Sqn/Company Tayyare Boluk. was formed as a mixed company with Germans and Ottoman airmen, the largest of the Air Companies it continued as such threw out the war.

After the war the Company was reformed for the War of Independance as as such continues to today.

Ottoman members

Abdullah Efendi pilot Airforce Instructor Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) 1914 to 1st Sqn 7-15 to 1-16 Lt sent to UK training 1912 sent to Germany for Training 1915 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cevdet Efendi Observer Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to 3rd Sqn 3-17 remain in Medina 12-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 to Medina shown with Nihat (P) 3-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Fehmi Efendi (Yemen) Observer to Pilot 1917 Airforce 1st Sqn 9-15 to 1-16 Lt died 25-3-21 (1894 died 25-3-21) Trained Yesilköy 5-15 Trained Yesilköy 1917 to War of Independence (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Nuri Efendi pilot Airforce shown CO 1st Sqn (1920) Capt WWI & War of Independence replaced due to poor maintenance of his company at Konya
Ali Riza Efendi pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 3-15 to OC 7th Sqn 2-16 to Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) at Yesilköy 5-16 Lt to Capt 6-15 KIA 30-5-16 (not confirmed?) "trained at Yesilköy 1914 licence 888 1915 - reported in Albatros C1 (AK1) with Lt Orhan (O) shot down a French Farman from Sqn MF 98T based at Bozcaada (Tenedos) island between Intepe and Cape Helles 30-11-15 to first OC 7th Sqn on Caucasian front 3rd Army awarded title of "Bey" 6-16 reported KIA 30-5-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Assiz Efendi Ground staff Airforce 1st Sqn at San Stefano 2-15 Lt Eng friend to Shakir
Behçet Efendi pilot Airforce 4th Sqn 1-16 to 1918 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) shown 1st Sqn 1921 Civil to Lt to civil KIA 18-8-21 (1886 died 18-8-21) Trained Yesilköy 1916 shown in Rumpler B1 (R12) with Sedat (O) over Cyprus 11-16 shown Rumpler B1 (R12) with Capt Mehmet (O) sortie over Cyprus 9-2-17 shown photo with Sitki Tanman Lt Keylisk Lt Chakar and Fehmi next to Albatros (202) at Deraa 1-1-18 to War of Independance reported died with Süleyman Sirri (O) due to engine fire in a Fiat R-2 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Celal Efendi (Bayraktaroglu) Observer Airforce 10th Sqn 6-17 shown 5th Sqn 9-18 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 att 2nd Army on Caucasian front shown AEG C4 (AEG24) with Aichler (P) in sortie over Chios 27-9-18 to War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Efendi (Ulusoy) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn to 2nd Sqn 1-16 to 12th Sqn 6-16 Lt dropped bombs on the British HMS Majestic 1-3-15 to Mesopotamia 1916 shown Albatros C1 (AK3) newly formed 12th Sqn with Nuzhet (O) 6-16 sick to hosp (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemil Efendi observer Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to OC 3rd Sqn 6-16 to 10-16 Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 Medina first OC 6-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Emin Nihat Efendi (Sözeri) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to 7th Sqn Caucasus 6-17 to 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Maan 12-17 to 5th Sqn 10-18 Sgt to Lt (shown Lt) PoW 4-2-18 by Arabs under TEL (check me)? (1893- 1978) War Academy the Harbiye: Engeneer Lt 1914 to airforce 1915 Medina shown in Albatross C3 (AK53) with Yakup Sami on Caucasian front 3rd Army 1917 shown awarded Silver War Medal when Albatross C3 (AK53) with Yakup Sami (O) for his attack on Gernir 8-8-17 to Maan 1917 shown 3rd Sqn at Maan 8-17 reported Rumpler C3 (R1837) with Sgt Zeki brought down by TEL Arabs forces PoW 4-2-18 shown arrived at 5th Sqn with AEG C4 (7108) 10-18 post war Maltepe incident War of Independance later Maj Gen retired 1946 to Governer of Diyarbakir during 1950-52 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fazil Efendi pilot Airforce shown 1st Sqn (1920) civil War of Independance
Fazil Efendi (Baghdad) observer Airforce 1st Sqn 1918 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi (Bilgin) pilot Airforce 15th Sqn 1918 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt PoW 20-10-18 by Bulgarians reported crashed on recce near Kosukavak Bulgaria to War of Independance
Hasan Fehmi Efendi (Bursa) or (Maltepe) pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Medina 12-17 shown 4th Sqn (photo) 1918 to 14th Sqn possibly 3-18 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Sgt as civil to Lt PoW 30-9-18 Trained Yesilköy 1917 to Medina to Postal Ministry 1-19 shown photo with Sitki Tanman Lt Keylisk Lt Chakar and Behçet next to Albatros (202) at Deraa 1-1-18 reported captured around Damascus PoW 30-9-18 later War of Independance joined to the National Forces of Mustafa Kemal Pasha The source "Havacilik Tarihinde Türkler" (Turks in Aivation History) p.vol.1 p.290 says that he is from Bursa or Maltepe/Istanbul (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hayreddin Efendi pilot Airforce shown 1st Sqn (1920) civil War of Independance
Hüseyin Avni (Arikkök) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 1915 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt WIA 29-8-20 trained at Yesilköy 1914 - War of Independance WIA 29-8-20 injuried in crashed near Bursa (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüseyin Sedat Efendi observer to pilot 4-16 Airforce first OC 1st Sqn 8-14 shown att Seaplane Sqn (Wasserfliegerabteilung) 6-15 shown T/OC from Preussner to OC 4th Sqn (from Mihat) 4-16 shown OC early 1918 Capt Naval Trained Yesilköy 10-14 spotted Allied Fleet with (P) Seidler (Seydler) 3-15 - obsver to (P) Garber over flew Senro bay 4-15 - obsver to (P) Serno in first air battle over Gallipoli 2-5-15 trained 4-16 shown in Rumpler B1 (R12) with Behcet (P) over Cyprus 11-16 Commander of the department February 1918 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüssein Efendi Observer airforce att 1st Sqn 5-15 Kapt-Lt Naval with Seydler (P) flew to islands off Dardenells 3-15
Ibrahim Nafiz Efendi observer Airforce shown 1st Sqn 1-16 to 5th Sqn 7-18 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 shown with Dobberstein (P) on recce over Tenedos 6-1-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Orhan Efendi Observer to Pilot 5-16 Airforce 1st Sqn 9-15 to cadet training in Ayastefanos Tayyare School 1-16 to (pilot) 3rd Sqn 6-16 to 8-18 remain in Medina 12-17 to 5th Sqn 6-18 Lt KIA 13-7-18 (1893 istanbul - KIA 13-9-18) from Galatasaray graduated in 1912 Trained Yesilköy 12-14 reported in Albatros C1 (AK1) with Lt Ali Riza (P) shot down a French Farman from Sqn MF 98T based at Bozcaada (Tenedos) island crashing between Intepe and Cape Helles 30-11-15 Trained Germany 5-16 to Medina 6-16 reported KIA 13-7-18 when shot down in AEG C4 (AEG15) with obsver Hüseyin Hüsnü by Greek AA Flak over Chios Island his plane crushed to sea near Sakiz Adasi Chios near Izmir (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ismail Hakki Efendi observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn shown OC 1st Sqn (1-19) replaced Nuri Bey 8-20 Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 WWI Mesopotamia & War of Independence shown 1st Sqn 1-19 4 (P) 4 (O) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kenan Yusuf Efendi observer Airforce shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt War of Independance
Mehmet Ali Efendi Observer Airforce Instructor Air School 1914 to 1st Sqn 5-15 shown OC Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) at Yesilköy 11-15 rtn 1-17 Lt tranined in UK 1912 sent to Germany for Training 1915 licence 887 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Cemal Efendi pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 1915 Lt trained at Yesilköy 1914 shown with Lt Sadullah (O) 6-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Fazil Efendi pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 1915 to 2nd Sqn 9-15 to OC 12-15 sick 2-16 to 3rd Sqn 6-16 shown T/OC (from Cemil) 10-16 to 6-17 to Cheif of Air Operations at Yesilikoy Istanbul 12-17 to CO 9th Sqn 9-18 & 12th Sqn dates? to CO 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt to Capt WIA 25-10-18 KIA 28-1-23 accident born 1889 died 27-1-1923) 1326-Hv.41) trained at Bristol UK with Lt Saffet Lt Mehmed Ali Lt's Abdullah and Sabri prewar 1911 Balkan War 1913 made first flight in Nieuport Hydravion over islands of Tenedos and Limnos 9-14 to Mesopotamia 1915 at Medina replaced Capt Cemil OC 3 Sqn in September 1916 to first OC 9th Sqn at San Stefano based Sqn at Yesilköy shown in last combat in Albatros D5 (AKD29) when WIA 25-10-18 shot down British DH9 into the city Istanbul (1 victory) shown Postal Ministry 1-19 to Maj War of Independance CO 2nd Sqn (1920) to LtCol injuried in crash with Sgt Emin in DH9 27-1-23 died next day
Mehmet Sabri Efendi (Mavnaci) pilot Airforce 14th Sqn 2-18 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Sgt to Lt died 19-6-24 Trained Yesilköy 1916 later War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Muhsin Efendi (Alpagot) observer Airforce 7th Sqn 2-16 shown 1st Sqn 1-17 possibly to OC 4th Sqn (replaced Ihsan) 8-18 to 9-18 Lt Trained 12-15 on Caucasian front 3rd Army reported WIA 23-7-16 with Abdullah (P) injuried in accident when crashed on landing at Zara near Susehri 23-7-16 shown with Croneiss (P) on recce over Tenedos 16-1-17 to Palestine 1918 shown OC replaced Capt Ihsan 4th Sqn Commander of the department in the months August / September 1918 post war Maltepe incident & to Capt War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Efendi Observer Airforce 1st Sqn 3-15 to 3rd Sqn 6-16 Lt Medina
Remzi Efendi pilot Airforce shown 1st Sqn (1920) civil died 28-2-23 (1895 died 28-2-23) War of Independance
Sadullah Efendi observer/Wireless operator Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 Lt shown with Mehmet Ali (P) 6-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sakir Hazim Efendi Observer to Pilot 1916 Airforce 1st Sqn 9-15 shown Adjt to Serno 2-15 to Chief of staff Airforce 11-15 Lt sent to Germany for Training 1914/15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Salim Efendi Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 Lt one of first pilots licence 971 1912 Trained in France (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sitki Efendi (Tanman) observer Airforce 4th Sqn 12-17 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 shown observer to Behçet (P) 1918 shown photo with Lt Fehmi Lt Keylisk Lt Chakar and Behçet next to Albatros (202) at Deraa 1-1-18 to War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Süleyman Sirri Efendi observer Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to 2nd Sqn 2-16 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 5-15 Mesopotamia 1915 returned sick War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Süleyman Sirri Efendi observer/photogrpher Airforce shown 1st Sqn (1920) Lt KIA 18-8-21 War of Independance reported died with Behçet Bey (P) due to engine fire in a Fiat R-2
Tahsin Efendi pilot Airforce shown first OC 1st Sqn 6-15 to OC (from Preussner) 7-15 to 9-15 to OC 5th Sqn 2-16 dismissed 5-16 Lt to Capt 6-15 Trained at Yesilköy 1914 - flew Rumpler (R4) to Turkey 20-6-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Vecihi Hürkus Efendi pilot Airforce 7th Sqn 6-17 shown 9th Sqn 9-18 shown 2nd Sqn 7-20 att 1st Sqn 8-20 (1920) Sgt to Civilian 1920 PoW 8-10-17 shown was the first civil aviator of Turkey Trained 11-16 sent to Caucasian front 3rd Army reported PoW 8-10-17 when Albatross C3 (AK53) shot down with Bahattin (O) by a Russian Nieuport Babe near Erzincan captive in Russia 8-10-17 shown photo as pilot to a captured Nieuport 17 5-18 shown in last combat in Nieuport 17 (K1) 10-18 to Postal Ministry 1-19 to War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)

German Members

Anschütz (Auschütz) (Anschwitz) Oscar Lt Observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk Çanakkale 9-15 shown 5th Sqn 1918 1915-18 name shown on postcard with Serno and Faller shown Albatros B1 with Lt Funfhausen (P) attacked a Monitor off Imbros 2-2-16 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Berkhausen Lt Eng Observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 1915-18 att Mechanic to first Sqn as maintence by Serno 2-15 shown WIA 12-11-16 in LVG with Pommerich (P) by British Neiuport fighter on photo recce over Tenedos 12-11-16 (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Böhm Civil / Lt (Capt) Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 2-15 1915- crashed with Lt Alaaddin (O) ferrying Rumpler B1 (R5) near Plovdiv Bulgaria 5-15 RTG 4-16 (not identified)? to many to confirm? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Bolze Capt Pilot Airforce 1-18 to OC 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 6-18 to 9-18 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Croneiss Karl Lt (Capt) pilot Airforce 5-16 shown 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 2-18 1917-18 reported damaged Albatros D3 in same combat that WIA his brother 8-2-18 RTG 4-18 later worked for Messerschmidt brother Theodor (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Croneiss Theodor Jakob ObLt (Capt) pilot Airforce Fokker Staffel 12-15 to OC 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 4-16 to OC 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk (from fischer) 10-16 shown still OC 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk + Dardenelles Aircraft Command with 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-17 - Üstegmen Croneiss Çanakkale bogazinda denizci Pilot 1916-18 (born 1894 at Schweinfurt died 7-11-42) from FA 66 replaced Korner 1-16 shown shot British Farman near El Sedd-ul-Bahr Gallipoli 7-1-16 shot down French Voisin III (8502) near Cape Hellas 8-1-16 shown shot down a Farman or BE 2c around Baba-Tepe near Imbros 4-2-16 shown shot down a Sopwith near Gulf of Saros 24-1-18 shown WIA 8-2-18 in Halberstadt D5 in combat over Chanakale 8-2-18 reported possibly brought down RNAS Lt Wimbush in DH9 of 220 Sqn RAF over Gallipoli claimed a Sopwith Scout 23-5-18 claimed all 5 victories during stay at 6th Sqn around Gallipoli RTG 6-18 sick malaria (5 or 7 victories) later worked for Messerschmidt (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Dobberstein Fritz Wachtmeister / VzFeldwebel pilot Airforce 1-16 shown 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 10-16 t/att 5th Sqn 10-16 shown still 1st Sqn 1-17 RTG 9-18 (1.Tayyare Bölügü astsubay basçavus) 1916-17 shown LVG with Kettenbeil (O) on raid to Tenedos 10-16 shown with Nafiz (O) on recce over Tenedos 6-1-17 RTG 10-18 (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Eicke Franz Lt Observer Airforce 1st Sqn 1918 Tayyare Boluk 1918- (not identified)
Eige Lt observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Estrachoz Lt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 1917- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Faller (Feller) Arthur ObLt (Capt) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-15 (9-15) shown Jasta 300 5-16 to OC 5th Sqn (replaced Tahsin) 6-16 still OC 12-16 to OC 2nd Sqn (after death of von Aulock) 4-17 to Kommdr de Flieger 5th Army 10-17 (from Kettembeil) Izmir ve Çanakkale'de 5. Ordu'da Uçak Bölüklerinin sonraki komutani (Izmir and Çanakkale'da 5th Army Aircraft Company's next commander) 1915-17 (1887 - 1965) from IR 169 pilots licence 153 (1912) - shown on postcard with Maj Siegert in Albatross B1 (A12) over Dardenells 5-1-16 to Mesopotamia mentioned by Guhr in his book (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fannenstiel (Pfannensteil) ObLt Observer Airforce 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk to OC 5th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 shown 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-17 shown 1st Sqn 1917 shown 5th Sqn 9-17 to OC 5th Sqn (from Capt Faller) 12-17 shown still OC 1-18 at Izmir 6. Kesif Uçak bölügü komutani (6th Disconnection Aircraft squadron commander) 1916 first OC at Smyrna shown took over from Buddecke when Fokker staffel rtn 6th Sqn 4-16 shown with Croneiss (P) on recce over Tenedos 28-1-17 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fischer Rudolf ObLt deR Observer Airforce Feldflieger-Truppe 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 12-15 shown T/att OC Coastal Recce unit 1-16 to OC 1st Sqn (from von Schlichting) 2-16 to 5th Sqn 10-16 1916- (1891 at Markranstädt KIA 8-10-16) in Smyrna commemoration at Tarabya Istanbul cause not stated? Ex 1st Guard Regt shown Rumpler C1 (R15) with Pommrich (P) on raid to Tenedos 10-16 shown MIA 8-10-16 in Albatros C3 (AK14) with Lt Fisher (O) disappeared on sortie over Samos possibly KIA 8-10-16 or 7-11-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Franz Sgt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-18 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fünfhausen Civil / Lt pilot Airforce 2-15 to 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to OC 7th Sqn Tayyare Boluk (from Anschwitz) 10-16 to 12-16 1915-17 shown in Albatros C1 with Capt Schlichting (O) in attack on British Monitors off Suva 2-12-15 shown with Maj Siegert in Albatross C1 over Imbros and Lemnos 6-1-16 shown Albatros B1 with Lt Anschwitz (O) attacked a Monitor off Imbros 2-2-16 shown Albatros B1 (A11) with Lt Kettembeil (O) crashed into sea off Tenedos after raid and saved 6-16 RTG 1917 (not identified) to many to confirm? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Garber Hugo Johann Max Jakob Civil / Lt Pilot Airforce Çanakkale 2-15 to 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-15 RTG 9-15 1915- (1893 - 1928) with obsver Hüseyin Sedat Bey over flew Senro bay 4-15 later flight instructor RTG 9-15 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Haaring (Harring Kurt) or (Haring) Karl VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn (Tayyare Boluk) 4-18 shown 6th Sqn (Tayyare Boluk) 8-18 1918- (1893 at Leipzig DoW 17-8-18) reported around WIA 15-8-18 shot stomach from air combat with Meinike landed plane at Dardanellen but died from wounds a few days later grave at Tarabya Istanbul (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hohenlohe-Ohringen Prinz Friedrich von ObLt to Maj Observer Airforce shown att 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1916 to Jasta 300 4-16 - Flieger-Abteilung 300 shown visited 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-17 1916-17 from OsFA 1 - shown obsver to Lt Meinecke early 1916 RTG 11-16 dropped off Albatross C3 (AK60) 4-9-17 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Keiper Ludwig Lt to ObLt (Capt) observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 2-16 to Adjt Chief of Staff 10-16 to Instructor Observer San Stefano 12-16 (shown OC 9 Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917) to 1918 shown OC 9 Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-18 to OC 15th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 to 10-18 shown to Kommdr de Flieger 3rd Army near Bulgaria 1918 de Trakya'da 3. Hava Bölük komutani (3rd Air Squadron Commander in Trakya) 1915-18 (1894 at Jagdhaus Homberg died 1981) from 8Co/2Bn Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment 118 WIA 16-9-14 to FFA 24 airforce 1915 to Ottoman 11-15 Mesopotamia later WWII Lt Gen Luftwaffe mission to Slavakia 1941-44 PoW 1945 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kettenbeil Karl ObLt (Capt) observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to Jasta 300 5-16 rtn 10-16 to OC Obsver School San Stafano 1-17 to Kommdr de Flieger 5th Army Smyrna (replaced Schueler) 7-17 - Izmir ve Çanakkale'de 5. Ordu'da Uçak Bölüklerinin sonraki komutani (Izmir and Çanakkale'da 5th Army Aircraft Company's next commander) shown Izmir Group 1-18 to Kommdr de Flieger 5th Army Smyrna (from wayer) 8-18 1915-18 from FAR 19 - claimed shot first enemy plane with Lt Preussner (P) on Dardnelles Front 27-9-15 shown Albatros B1 (A11) with Lt Fünfhausen (P) crashed into sea off Tenedos after raid and saved 6-16 shown LVG with Dobberstein (P) on raid to Tenedos 10-16 to Kommdr de Flieger 5th Army 7-17 later WWII Luftwaffe Gen (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Klaus Edwin Offizier stellvertreter Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 (1889 at Obergneus died 9-5-18) near El-Humar cause not stated? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Klingenbeil Lt observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 (1-16) 1915-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
König Friedrich Karl Flieger / Flugzeugf Lt Airforce Feldflieger Abt. Dardanellen (unit unknown possibly 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk ) 1915- (1883 at Berlin DoD 11-11-15 in the German hospital) of illness at Konstantinopel grave at Tarabya Istanbul Todesart nicht lesbar
Körner Martin ObLt (Capt) Observer/photogragher Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-15 shown OC (replaced Tashin) 9-15 1915-16 (1885 at Dessau KIA 23-1-17) from Pion Btn 15 to photogragher sent to Turkey by Serno (reported Maj Serno brought Wayer and Körner as observers 5-15) to instruct new aircrew 8-15 att Naval 5-15 shown OC seaplane Sqn 9-15 RTG 1-16 to Capt later KIA in France (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Lent Lt observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Lesbent (Legbent) Lt Observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Lösche Alfred VzFeldwebel Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk (shown as FFA 1 Baghdad) to 6th Army Mesopotamia 1916- (1891 at Rudolfstadt - died 2-3-16) committed suicide Baghdad Mesopotamia
Meinecke Emil ObLt pilot Airforce shown 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 10-15 to Fokker staffel 12-15 to 6th Sqn 4-16 to flight instructor in San Stefano 1915-18 (1892 in Mannheim died 1975) from FA 66 (flew a Fokker E3) claimed shot down 2 enemy planes 12-15 shown shot down a BE2c near Yenishir 27-1-17 claimed shot down Canadian Lt Gordon Bysshe in Bristol Scout shown shot down Farman F27 (N3021) near Chanak 12-2-17 shown shot down a Bristol Scout (8996) (Lt Bysshe) near Hamidge 17-2-17 shown in LVG (LVG3) with Hüseyin Hüsnü (O) ditched on move to Yesilköy 17-4-17 claimed shot down a Sopwith Baby (N1445) (6th Wing RNAS Lt Johnson) near Nagara Point 20-1-18 & a Sopwith 1½ Strutter (Greek Lt Spyros Hambras) over Maidos 23-1-18 claimed shot down s Sopwith over Gulf of Saros 24-1-18 shown Sopwith Camel near Kilia 29-1-18 flew Albatroos D2 (902/16) in 1918 RTG 10-18 Later test pilot of Fokker-Werke then a member of the US Air Force also during the Berlin Airlift (6 victories) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Milens Lt pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to 5th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 12-16 1915- (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Onroch (Unroch) Sgt / Lt (Capt) Observer Airforce shown 12th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 to 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 4-17 shown 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 11-17 to OC (from Bolze) 9-18 1917-18 Mesopotamia shown with Sgt Dore (P) forced landed behind enemy lines and had to walk back 3-3-17 shown Albatros C3 (AK60) with Schliegel (P) recce over Gulf of Saros 8-11-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Onrohange Lt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 1917- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osterbach Sgt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-18 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Plates von Capt Pilot Airforce 5-17 to OC 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk (replaced Prechter) 8-17 to OC 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk (from Croneiss) 4-18 1917-18 shown a Captured British DH4 with Schroeder (O) on recce over Imbros 6-6-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Pommrich (Pommerich) (Pomerich) Johannes Unteroffizier Pilot Airforce 2-15 to 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-17 1916-17 (1892 at Chemnitz DoD 6-6-17 or DoD 7-7-17) of Typhoid at Mossul / Mosul Mesopotamia shown Rumpler C1 (R15) with Fisher (O) on raid to Tenedos 10-16 claimed brougth down Lt Lander (Wia & PoW) in a BE near Terkit 6-5-17 (in book by Tennant) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Prensitter Lt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 1917- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Preussner Louis (Preußner Ludwig) Civil / Unteroffizier pilot Airforce CO 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 2-15 to Director Training Flieger Abt. School San Stefano (Aviator Dept. San Stefano) 1915 Çanakkale'de Pilot Uçus bölük komutani (Flight Commander in Çanakkale) 1915-16 (1888 at Hölle (Bayern) DoA 2-5-16 or 3-5-16) at Konstantinopel grave at Tarabya Istanbul Ex Guard Jäger Bn claimed with Lt Ketlembeil brought down first allied plane in 27-9-15 reported instructor with trainee pilot when in Rumpler B1 or (Gotha G2) crash at San Stefano field reported mortality in Flying accident with turkish pupil Ali Riza at San Stefano durch Flugzeugabsturz bei San Stefano verwundet 16-5-16 also shown WIA 3-5-16 DoA 4-5-16 or DoA 29-5-16 on grave in türkischen Diensten gefallene preußische Offiziere 10 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Röder Hermann Civil / Lt pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-15 to 4th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 12-15 to 3-16 - Iskenderun hava sahasi korunmasi Mersin ve Dogu Ürdün'de (Iskenderun airspace protection in Mersin and East Jordan) 1915-17 to Adana 1-16 shown flew Rumpler B1 (R12) over Cyprus 14-2-16 RTG 4-16 (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schlichting von ObLt (Capt) observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to OC (from Körner) 1-16 to 2-16 to 2nd Sqn 2-16 RTG sick 2-16 1915- from Artillery shown in Albatros C1 with Lt Fünfhausen (P) in attack on British Monitors off Suva 2-12-15 RTG sick typhoid 2-16 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schliecke Lt observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schliegel (Schiegel) Sgt (Lt) Pilot Airforce 3-17 shown 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 11-17 1917-18 shown Albatros C3 (AK60) with Unroch (O) recce over Gulf of Saros 8-11-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schlüter Lt pilot Airforce 1st Sqn? Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 reported crashed and picked up by Turkish navy around 8-18
Schneider Karl Kapt-Lt Marine observer Airforce staff officer to Admiral Usedom 2-15 att 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-15 later possibly German Seaplane Sqn (Wasserfliegerabteilung) 1915-16 shown on patrol with Capt Serno to Tenedos 17-3-15 made first reccon flight in Rumpler B1 over Gallipoli (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schröeder Sgt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 to 5th Sqn Tayyare Boluk to 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 11-17 1917-18 shown a Captured British DH4 with Plates (O) on recce over Imbros 6-6-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Serno Erich ObLt to Capt to (Maj) to (Col) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 2-15 Tayyare Boluk to Airforce chief of Air staff 3-15 to 9-17 rtn 2-18 - Havaci Birlikler Dairesi Baskani (Head of Aviation Units) 1915-18 (1886 - ...) pilot licence 301 (1912) att to Staff Carpathian Corps 9-17 rtn Turkey 2-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Seydler or Sydler or Seidler Frank Civil / Lt Pilot Airforce 2-15 to 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk at Çanakkale 5-15 RTG 9-15 1915-16 Bavarian first pilot sent to Turkey - spotted Alied Fleet 3-15 with Obsver Lt Hüseyin Sedat Bey spotted Allied Fleet 18-3-15 RTG 9-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Slutter Sgt Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-18 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Stebel (Stabel F.) Lt observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Szinster Wachtmeister / Lt Observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917 1917-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)

Ole and others have misspelled many names, and as such finding the right ones has been hard, so this is a start if you are looking into this area.

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Re: Ottoman Air units

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2nd Sqn/Company Tayyare Boluk raised for served in Mesopotamia and like the 1st Sqn/Company was a mixed Company.

(possibly known) Ottoman members

Abbas Efendi law officer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn 9-18 Capt Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Abdülhalim Efendi Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn 8-17 Sgt Mesopotamia 1915 shown with Co 9-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Cemal Efendi (Turgutlu) pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn 8-17 Sgt Mesopotamia reported Rumpler C1 (RK1) (Ex 1832/15) with Basri (P) shot down a British plane around the Euphrates 22-3-18 (1 victory) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Nuri Efendi observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Capt War of Independance
Ahmet Nüzhet Efendi observer Airforce 2nd Sqn 5-16 to Capt OC 12th Sqn 7-16 Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia first OC shown Albatros C1 (AK3) newly formed 12th Sqn with Cemal (P) 6-16 reported Albatros C1 (AK3) when hit by AA fire crashed with Konrat (P) near Kermanshah 28-11-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Bahattin (Bahaddin) Efendi Observer Airforce 10th Sqn 11-16 to 7th Sqn 8-17 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt PoW 8-10-17 Trained Yesilköy 1916 on Caucasian front observer to (P) Jakop 11-16 reported PoW 8-10-17 when Albatross C3 (AK53) shot down with Vecihi (P) by a Russian Nieuport Babe near Erzincan captive in Russia 8-10-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Balzum Efendi pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Lt Mesopotamia 1915
Behçet Efendi pilot Airforce 4th Sqn 1-16 to 1918 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) shown 1st Sqn 1921 Civil to Lt to civil KIA 18-8-21 (1886 died 18-8-21) Trained Yesilköy 1916 shown in Rumpler B1 (R12) with Sedat (O) over Cyprus 11-16 shown Rumpler B1 (R12) with Capt Mehmet (O) sortie over Cyprus 9-2-17 shown photo with Sitki Tanman Lt Keylisk Lt Chakar and Fehmi next to Albatros (202) at Deraa 1-1-18 to War of Independance reported died with Süleyman Sirri (O) due to engine fire in a Fiat R-2 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Cemal Efendi (Ulusoy) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn to 2nd Sqn 1-16 to 12th Sqn 6-16 Lt dropped bombs on the British HMS Majestic 1-3-15 to Mesopotamia 1916 shown Albatros C1 (AK3) newly formed 12th Sqn with Nuzhet (O) 6-16 sick to hosp (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fesa Efendi pilot Airforce instructor Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) 1914 to OC 2nd Sqn Capt Cavalry PoW 6-11-14 sent to Bleriot Flight School pilots licence 780 1912 Trained in France to be trained as pilot 1911 captured 6-11-14 by Russians when ships sunk in Black Sea on the Caucasian Front released in 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Fettah Efendi observer Airforce 2nd Sqn 10-15 possibly to OC from Aulock Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 12-15 Mesopotamia flew with pilot Lt Fazil 10-15 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Halil Efendi (Ziveroglu) pilot Airforce shown att Jasta 26 on Western Front 5-18 to 7-18 shown 9th Sqn 10-18 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Sgt to Lt 1920 died 13-8-21 (1898 to died 13-8-21) Trained Germany 1916 Mesopotamia reported with last combat Albatroos C3 (AK26) 18-10-18 War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Halit Efendi observer Airforce OC 2nd Sqn at Izmir 1-19 Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 War of Independance 4 (P) 2 (O) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hamdi Efendi (Caypinar) observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 WWI to War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Basri Efendi observer Airforce to 12th Sqn 6-16 to 2nd Sqn 1917 shown OC Euph.Müf 1-18 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia shown with Co 9-17 reported Rumpler C1 (RK1) shot down a British plane with Cemal (P) around the Euphrates 22-3-18 (1 victory) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hayrettin Efendi Observer Airforce 2nd Sqn Lt Trained Germany 1917 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hayrettin Efendi pilot Airforce shown 7th Sqn 10-17 to 8th Sqn 8-18 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Sgt / as civil 1920 WIA 6-10-18 accident on Caucasian front 3rd Army to War of Independance shown Albatross C3 (AK79) with Fikri (O) 10-17 shown WIA 6-10-18 when Morane Parasol with Yusuf Kenan (O) crashed on take off at Täbriz 6-10-18
Hüseyin Hüsnü Efendi (Bilge) (Ank) Observer to pilot 1916 Airforce tos 2nd Sqn 5-16 to 13th Sqn 5-17 to 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Dera 12-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 5-15 Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia 1916 to Medina to Dera 1917 later to Maj Chief instructer of Observation/navigation of Turkish air force 1932 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ismail Hakki Efendi observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn shown OC 1st Sqn (1-19) replaced Nuri Bey 8-20 Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 WWI Mesopotamia & War of Independence shown 1st Sqn 1-19 4 (P) 4 (O) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kadri Efendi observer Airforce 2nd Sqn 5-16 shown Capt Pilot when WIA 12-16 Lt to Capt WIA 10-12-16 Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia shown with Hüseyin Hüsnü (P) 26-11-16 reported with Albatros C3 (AK11) forced down when WIA 10-12-16 saved by Hüseyin Hüsnü who flew him to hosp at Baghdad (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Leroz Efendi observer Airforce 2nd Sqn 1-16 Lt Mesopotamia 1915
M. Cemal Efendi Airforce OC 2nd Sqn 1-19 Capt War of Independance shown 4 (P) 4 (O) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Tevfik Efendi Observer Airforce 2nd Sqn to 16th Sqn 3-18 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia to Caucasian front shown Albatros C3 (AK46) with Sgt Fazil (P) supported Baku operation 8-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ali Efendi Observer Airforce 2nd Sqn Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ali Efendi pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn 12-15 Capt WIA 1-2-16 Mesopotamia 1915 reported crashed in Pfalz A2 (P1) and broke legs near Baghdad
Mehmet Fazil Efendi pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 1915 to 2nd Sqn 9-15 to OC 12-15 sick 2-16 to 3rd Sqn 6-16 shown T/OC (from Cemil) 10-16 to 6-17 to Cheif of Air Operations at Yesilikoy Istanbul 12-17 to CO 9th Sqn 9-18 & 12th Sqn dates? to CO 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt to Capt WIA 25-10-18 KIA 28-1-23 accident born 1889 died 27-1-1923) 1326-Hv.41) trained at Bristol UK with Lt Saffet Lt Mehmed Ali Lt's Abdullah and Sabri prewar 1911 Balkan War 1913 made first flight in Nieuport Hydravion over islands of Tenedos and Limnos 9-14 to Mesopotamia 1915 at Medina replaced Capt Cemil OC 3 Sqn in September 1916 to first OC 9th Sqn at San Stefano based Sqn at Yesilköy shown in last combat in Albatros D5 (AKD29) when WIA 25-10-18 shot down British DH9 into the city Istanbul (1 victory) shown Postal Ministry 1-19 to Maj War of Independance CO 2nd Sqn (1920) to LtCol injuried in crash with Sgt Emin in DH9 27-1-23 died next day
Midhat Efendi Pilot Airforce instructor Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) 1914 to 2nd Sqn 5-16 to 12th Sqn 6-16 Lt Mesopotamia help wrote first text book on Avation 1914
Ömer Avni Efendi (Okar) Observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 to War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Nuri Efendi (Baykal) Observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt War of Independance
Rifat Efendi Airforce 2nd Sqn 1-19 Lt War of Independance Workshop officer (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sabri Efendi (Bilgin) observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt War of Independance
Salih Rafet Efendi Observer Airforce 2nd Sqn Lt Trained Yesilköy 5-15 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Salim or Selim Kemal Efendi pilot Airforce instructor Aircraft School (Tayyare Mektebi) 1914 to 2nd Sqn 1914 Capt PoW 6-11-14 one of first pilots licence 1044 1912 Trained in France - Balkan War (Bleriot) with pilot Mauricio 'Mario' Scherff and Kemal Bey (navigator) shown with Capt Salim in flight to Cairo 9-5-14 later WWI captured 6-11-14 by Russians when ships sunk in Black Sea Caucasian Front released in 1917 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schadul Efendi observer Airforce shown OC 2nd Sqn (from Neimayer KIA) 1-17 Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Seheefr Efendi pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Lt Mesopotamia
Sihadul Efendi observer Airforce 2nd Sqn Capt Mesopotamia
Süleyman Sirri Efendi observer Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to 2nd Sqn 2-16 shown 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 5-15 Mesopotamia 1915 returned sick War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Vecihi Hürkus Efendi pilot Airforce 7th Sqn 6-17 shown 9th Sqn 9-18 shown 2nd Sqn 7-20 att 1st Sqn 8-20 (1920) Sgt to Civilian 1920 PoW 8-10-17 shown was the first civil aviator of Turkey Trained 11-16 sent to Caucasian front 3rd Army reported PoW 8-10-17 when Albatross C3 (AK53) shot down with Bahattin (O) by a Russian Nieuport Babe near Erzincan captive in Russia 8-10-17 shown photo as pilot to a captured Nieuport 17 5-18 shown in last combat in Nieuport 17 (K1) 10-18 to Postal Ministry 1-19 to War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ziya Efendi observer Airforce 2nd Sqn 2-16 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1915 Mesopotamia 1915 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)

German members

Aulock Franz Von Capt Pilot Airforce 1-16 to OC 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk (from Fazil) 2-16 to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army 8-16 Mesopotamia 1915-17 (1889 at Kochelsdorf - DoA 2-4-17 or 3-4-17) from Füs.R. 37 to Mesopotamia 1915 first OC 2nd Sqn DoA 2-4-17 or 3-4-17 reported killed in Halberstadt D5 (HK 2) in flying accident near Mosul (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Bach (Back) Lt Observer Airforce 1916 shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-16 - possibly Iran seferiyle Kermansah'a (Iran expedition to Kermansah Mesopotamia) 1916-17 Mesopotamia shown Albatros C1 (AK5) with Hüseyin Hüsnü (P) damaged in combat 15-12-16 reported Albatros C3 (AK11) WIA 20-12-16 in combat (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Baldsum Civil / Lt Pilot Airforce 2-15 shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 1915-18 Mesopotamia possibly not ToS RTG 4-16 sick (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Bechler Master Sgt Werkmeister/master mechanic Airforce Flug park Mosul Mesopotamia 1917 att 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917- Chief mech at Bagdad Mesopotamia (not identified)?
Becker Capt Observer/photographer Airforce to 2nd Sqn 1916 Tayyare Boluk shown CO Aerial Survey and Photogrammetric Unit shown CO Mosul Photo Unit 1918 1916-18 photogragher to Bagdad 1916 to Mosul Mesopotamia date? (not identifed)?
Bob Sgt Pilot Airforce 8-16 shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia claimed in Fokker E3 a Briitsh BE 2 near Baghdad 23-1-17 reported shot down in Fokker E3 (F12) near Baghdad KIA 3-3-17 (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Bomberg (Bomber) Sgt Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Bormann Wilhelm ObLt deR Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-17 shown Fighter section at Mosul 4-18 Irak'ta 6. Ordu'da Avci uçak filo komutani (aircraft fleet commander in the 6th Army in Iraq) Mesopotamia 1917-18 (born at Niedersickte ) Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Breuer Gefr Fitter Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia shown on leave 9-18 (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Busch Gefr Fitter Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia shown RTG leave (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Chromik Sgt (Lt) Pilot (ammo officer) Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia shown Pilot Probationary Officer awarded Iron Cross 1st class 9-18 (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) (not identified)? to many to confirm?
Dürre (Dore) VzFeldwebel Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-16 1917- Mesopotamia shown with Capt Schadul (O) 3-3-17 reported shown Albatros C3 (AK64) forced landed with Gröne (O) due to engine failure near Samara / Salt Lake Mesopotamia PoW 9-7-17 or PoW 7-6-17 both Hopff & Teich died 9-7-17 (in book by Tennant) said that one Albertross crashed between Ramadi and Terkit and another landed to pick up crew then the other plane crashed and the four had to walk untill British saved only two of them? (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Faller (Feller) Arthur ObLt (Capt) Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-15 (9-15) shown Jasta 300 5-16 to OC 5th Sqn (replaced Tahsin) 6-16 still OC 12-16 to OC 2nd Sqn (after death of von Aulock) 4-17 to Kommdr de Flieger 5th Army 10-17 (from Kettembeil) Izmir ve Çanakkale'de 5. Ordu'da Uçak Bölüklerinin sonraki komutani (Izmir and Çanakkale'da 5th Army Aircraft Company's next commander) 1915-17 (1887 - 1965) from IR 169 pilots licence 153 (1912) - shown on postcard with Maj Siegert in Albatross B1 (A12) over Dardenells 5-1-16 to Mesopotamia mentioned by Guhr in his book (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Faustmann Feldwebel Ground crew Artifficer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Fox Sgt Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-16 1916-17 Mesopotamia shown in Albatros C1 (AK5) with Capt Niemeyer (O) in attacks on British bridgehead 14-12-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) (not identifed)?
Gebhard Capt Pilot Airforce shown OC 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk (replaced Schadul) 1-18 1915-17 Mesopotamia 1915 (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Gelecht (Gelect) Lt Observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 12-17 shown 13th Sqn 1917-18 Mesopotamia with Klauss (P) in raid on British base at Samarra 31-12-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Gembke (Gambke) Capt Pilot Airforce OC 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917 shown 2nd Sqn 9-18 1915-17 Mesopotamia 1915 first OC shown on leave 9-18 (not identified)
Halder Karl Gefr / Sgt Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 shown as Zur Osmanischen Luftfahrwesen Kommandierte 1917-18 (1896 at Essertsweiler ) Mesopotamia (in book by Tennant) dropped letters to British 25-12-17 reported crashed with Kruse (O) near Ramadi PoW 12-1-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Heidrich Lt (Capt) pilot Airforce OC 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn 8-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia unit disbanded 8-17 reported MIA 30-9-17 reported lost during sortie in Mesopotamia possibly KIA 30-9-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hesse von Hans Lt (Capt) Pilot airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 10-17 and Assitant Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army 1-18 shown formed Fighter section at Mosul 4-18 - Havacilik Tarihinde Türkler (Turks in Aviation History) - Feldflieger-Truppe Mesopotamia 1917-18 (born at Dessau ) Airforce 1914 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hofmann Gefr / T/Feldwebel Ground crew Artifficer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Holler Carl (Karl) Sgt Pilot Airforce shown 2nd Sqn 9-15 Tayyare Boluk 1915-16 (1885 - 1966) from FEA 11 to Mesopotamia RTG 1-16 (not identified)
Hopff (Hober) Arnold Flieger Sgt Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 1917- (1893 at Brunkensen DoA 9-7-17) near Baghdad reported also MIA 7-6-17 shown Albatros C3 (AK68) forced landed in the desert with Lt Teich (P) due to engine failure died of heat exhaustion and thirst near Samara / Salt Lake Mesopotamia - a family source reports of a killing by civilians (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Jopp (Jarp) Ernst Karl Gefr / Unteroffizier Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1916-17 (1896 at Elbing died 18-2-17) at Kut-el-Amara Mesopotamia cause not stated?
Kallmann Lt Pilot Airforce possibly 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in 2nd Sqn RO's 26-9-18) not shown on rolls?
Kanus Lt Accounts officer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Keiper Ludwig Lt to ObLt (Capt) observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 2-16 to Adjt Chief of Staff 10-16 to Instructor Observer San Stefano 12-16 (shown OC 9 Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917) to 1918 shown OC 9 Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-18 to OC 15th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 to 10-18 shown to Kommdr de Flieger 3rd Army near Bulgaria 1918 de Trakya'da 3. Hava Bölük komutani (3rd Air Squadron Commander in Trakya) 1915-18 (1894 at Jagdhaus Homberg died 1981) from 8Co/2Bn Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment 118 WIA 16-9-14 to FFA 24 airforce 1915 to Ottoman 11-15 Mesopotamia later WWII Lt Gen Luftwaffe mission to Slavakia 1941-44 PoW 1945 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Kietner Flieger Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia shown on leave 9-18 (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Klanke L/Cpl Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 att depot at Sharquat 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Klaus Edwin Offizier stellvertreter Pilot Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 3-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 (1889 at Obergneus died 9-5-18) near El-Humar cause not stated? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Klein Sgt Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Klocker Sgt Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 1917-18 Mesopotamia shown died in Iraq date 1917 shown died 1917 cause not stated? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Konrat (Konrad) (Conrad) Max Sgt Pilot Airforce 8-16 shown 12th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 6-16 combinded with 2nd Sqn 1916- (1891 at Stallupönen KIA 21-4-17) Mesopotamia 1916 reported Albatros C1 (AK3) when hit by AA fire crashed with Ahmet Nüzhet (O) near Kermanshah 28-11-16 shown in Albatros C1 with Niemayer (O) KIA in combat 15-1-17 shown KIA 21-4-17 in Halberstadt D5 (HK6) when wings ripped off in combat 21-4-17 spelling by Ole Nikolajsen (not identified)?
Kruse Willi VzFeldwebel Observer Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk - Zur Osmanischen Armee kommandiert or Zur Osmanischen Luftfahrwesen Kommandierte 1917-18 (1889 at Berlin ) reported crashed with Halder (P) near Ramadi PoW 12-1-18 Mesopotamia
Kunz (Kunze) Hermann Karl Ludwig Lt Pilot Airforce (Jasta 55) Jagdstaffel F1 4-18 shown to Jasta 300 or Jasta 2 (F) Jagdstaffel F2 (1918'de Pasa birliklerinde Filistin ve Irak'ta avci uçak pilotu (in Palestine and Iraq in 1918) to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk shown Fighter section (to train the Fighter section on new Albatros D3 at Mosul 4-18 Mesopotamia 1918- from Jasta 3 to Jasta 7 (3 victories) in France - claimed shot down British fighters 3-1-18 and 4-1-18 shown Potts KIA & Parkinson RE 8 (B5854) 67 Sqn (1 Sqn AFC) & Capt Hewett MC KIA and 2Lt A Butt KIA (RE 8) 113 Sqn RFC both planes collided during combat - shown shot down balloon 28-4-18 & claimed a balloon with Lt Hargreaves KIA from 50th KBS 8-5-18 claimed Albatros D3 shot down a RE 8 around Little Zab Mesopotamia 15-5-18 claimed a SE5a 7-18 possibly flown Albatross D3 (7416/17) at AWM in Canberra (6 victories or 3 victories?) (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Levin or (Lewin) Lt (Capt) Observer Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 to OC 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk (from Zelich) 5-18 to 10-18 - Amman'da 14. Uçus filosunda (In Amman's 14th Flight Fleet) 1915-18 Mesopotamia shown replaced Maj Zelich to Amman Group leader (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Luther Gefr medical Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 to Aircraft Park Mosul 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Marschallek L/Cpl Fitter Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Martene Lt possibly ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia shown on leave 9-18 (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Maschke Sgt Medical Ground crew Medical Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk (replaced Gefr Luther) 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Matuszewski L/Cpl Ground crew Carpenter Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Mayer Lt Observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 2-16 1916-17 Mesopotamia RTG sick date? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Meyer Horst Lt Pilot Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 12-15 1916- (1891 at Danzig - died 29-4-16) at Kut-el-Amara Mesopotamia buried Bagdad cause not stated?
Mileff (Milet) Trifun Gefr Pilot Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-16 1916-17 (1896 at Monastir - died 1-2-17) at Kut-el-Amara Mesopotamia buried Bagdad cause not stated?
Miltens Lt Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-17 1918- Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Moench Lt photogragher/meteorological Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Niemayer Capt Observer Airforce 1-16 to OC 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk (replaced Aulock) 9-16 1916-17 Mesopotamia shown flew Baghdad no.1 (AK27) with Sgt Fox (P) 20-12-16 shown KIA 15-1-17 in Albatros C1 with Konrad (P) damaged in fight 15-1-17 (not identifed)? also shown KIA 19-1-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Nolle Sgt (Lt) Observer Airforce 1917 shown 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-17 shown photograph officer 2nd Sqn 9-18 1917- Mesopotamia reported WIA 11-8-17 or 18-8-17 when Albatros C3 (AK54) with Capt Prechter (P) killed in flying accident at Sueimaniye / Mosul (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Otten L/Cpl Wireless officer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Pavlot Sgt Pilot Airforce 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-17 1917- Mesopotamia shown with Heidrich (P) 9-17 shown died in Iraq 1917 cause not stated? possibly with Klocker? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Petros Lt Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-17 shown 13th Sqn 4-18 1917-18 Mesopotamia with Gröne (O) in raid on British base at Samarra 31-12-17 reported KIA 21-4-18 AEG C4 (AEG8) with Lt Minkovitz (O) shot down on recce of Samarra 21-4-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Pieper Johann Flieger Airforce Feld-Wetterzentrale Konstantinopel - Abteilung No 2 (2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk ) (Field weather station Constantinople) 1917-18 (born at Bremen died date?) shown WIA 1916 in türkischen Diensten gefallene preußische Offiziere 7 and in türkischen Diensten gefallene preußische Offiziere 9
Pommrich (Pommerich) (Pomerich) Johannes Unteroffizier Pilot Airforce 2-15 to 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-17 1916-17 (1892 at Chemnitz DoD 6-6-17 or DoD 7-7-17) of Typhoid at Mossul / Mosul Mesopotamia shown Rumpler C1 (R15) with Fisher (O) on raid to Tenedos 10-16 claimed brougth down Lt Lander (Wia & PoW) in a BE near Terkit 6-5-17 (in book by Tennant) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Quoos (Loos) August Lt Observer Airforce 1916 shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-18 1916-18 (1893 at Belkau died 1978) shown Unteroffizier WIA 1917 shown AEG C4 shot down plane with Schulter (Schafer) (P) near Little Zab or Altinköprü (Uzunköprü) 16-5-18 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Reiners Sgt / Lt Pilot Airforce 11th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-17 1917- Mesopotamia shown Halberstadt D5 (HK3) shot down two planes attacking his airfield near Tikrit 27-9-17 (reported 63 Sqn RFC lost two RE 8's (Phillpot/Begg & Baillon/Grant all PoW) on raid on Tikrit 25-9-17 possibly Probationary Officer late in war? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Rinkel ObLt Observer Airforce to 2nd Sqn 1916 1916-18 Mesopotamia shown flew with Officer Chromik to Mosul 9-18 (not identifed)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Rinkel Lt Observer Airforce shown 2nd Sqn 9-18 1918- (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schafer (Schäffer Albert) (Schulter Siegfreid) Civil / Lt Pilot Airforce 2-15 shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1-16 rtn 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 Mesopotamia RTG 4-16 sick returned Turkey claimed AEG C4 shot down plane with Loos (O) near Little Zab or Altinköprü (Uzunköprü) 16-5-18 (not identified)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schlichting von ObLt (Capt) Observer Airforce 1st Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to OC (from Körner) 1-16 to 2-16 to 2nd Sqn 2-16 RTG sick 2-16 1915- from Artillery shown in Albatros C1 with Lt Fünfhausen (P) in attack on British Monitors off Suva 2-12-15 RTG sick typhoid 2-16 Mesopotamia (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schubert Chaplain Staff Airforce shown att 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schultze (Sultze) Lt Observer Airforce shown 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 12-17 shown att 2nd Sqn 9-18 1917- Mesopotamia shown AEG C4 with Sembke (O) in raid on Baghdad 25-1-18 reported shot down in AEG C4 with Omnos (P) forced walked to base 31-1-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schulz (Schüz or Schulze) Hans ObLt (Capt) pilot Airforce to Fokker group 12-15 to 6th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1916 to Flugpark Mosul 1916 to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 4-16 to OC 2nd Sqn (shown replaced Faller) 3-17 shown Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army (from Aulock) 4-17 to 13th Sqn Tayyare Boluk to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army 1-18 shown Fighter section at Mosul 4-18 Mesopotamia - Irak'ta 6. Orduda Uçak filolarinin sonraki komutani (In the 6th Army in Iraq the next commander of airplane fleets Mesopotamia (reported to command 17th Sqn Tayyare Boluk but not operational) 1915-18 (died 1941) from FA 66 - claimed shot down 2 enemy planes 12-15 shown shot down a Farman near Sedd-ul-Bahr 11-1-16 & claimed a Farman 12-1-16 with Fokker E1 (F3) claimed a Seaplane in Mesopotamia 24-4-16 shown shot down a B.E.2c & Short 184 (8044) near Kut-el-Amara 26-4-16 & shot down a B.E.2c (4558) (FTL) & BE 2c near Euphrates River 7-5-16 shown in Halberstadt D5 shot down a BE 12 (4585) near Balad Tigris River 3-4-17 & a B.E.2c (4500) near Samarra Tigris River 15-4-17 shown shot down a Bristol Scout near Tigris River 28-4-17 shown Albatros D3 shot down a RE 8 around Little Zab Mesopotamia (near Altinköprü (Uzunköprü) Palestine) 15-5-18 & unknown EA in Palestine 31-5-18 (shown 10 victories) (Lt Paddy Maguire later died illness as PoW in book by Tennant) to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army (from Hattendorf) 1918 RTG 10-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Schumann L/Cpl Fitter Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Schüz Lt (Capt) Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk shown Fighter section at Mosul 4-18 1917-18 Mesopotamia claimed a british plane near Tuz Khurmatli 1-5-18 & claimed a british plane 3-5-18
Seiznger Feldwebel Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Shuert L/Cpl Ground crew Carpenter Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Siegler Gefr photogragher Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Stein Maj Inspector Airforce shown att 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Straeter Gefr Interpreter staff Airforce to Kommdr de Flieger 6th Army Mosul T/att 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Streickfuß Sgt Pilot Airforce to 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 8-16 1916-18 Mesopotamia shown in Fokker E3 (F12) claim damaged EA 19-11-16 claimed a British plane 20-11-16 claim damaged 2x EA 21-11-16 shown in Fokker E3 (F12) WIA 27-11-16 when jumped by British planes near Nasireye Mesopotamia (not identifed)? (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Teich Walter Lt Pilot Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 5-17 1916-17 (1893 at Berlin - DoA 9-7-17) from Dragoon Regt No 1 & 45 IR reported shown Albatros C3 (AK68) forced landed with Durre (O) due to engine failure died of exhaustion with Hopff near Samara / Salt Lake Mesopotamia
Umbach Flieger Ground crew carpenter Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Vaustmann Flieger Ground crew Ammo Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)
Waltemate Gefr Ground crew Airforce shown 2nd Sqn Tayyare Boluk 9-18 1918- Mesopotamia (shown in RO's 26-9-18)

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 17 Jan 2020 01:26

The 3rd Sqn/Company Tayyare Boluk served in Arabia and Palestine, was formed as a purely Ottoman Sqn since it was to be at Medina, but as the war went on the unit was split up and part moved to Palestine.

The known Ottoman Members

Ahmet Cevdet Efendi Observer Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to 3rd Sqn 3-17 remain in Medina 12-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 to Medina shown with Nihat (P) 3-18 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Kamil Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 6-16 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Medina shown observer with Lt Sakir (P) bombed Feysil's HQ 11-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ahmet Zeki Efendi Observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Maan 12-17 Sgt to Lt Trained Yesilköy 1918 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ali Raik Efendi 72nd Regt - 3Bn (Ex Airforce 3rd Sqn) Sgt Maj PoW 12-17 reported Ex 3rd Turkish Areo Co Medina
Cemil Efendi observer Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to OC 3rd Sqn 6-16 to 10-16 Lt to Capt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 Medina first OC 6-16 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Emin Nihat Efendi (Sözeri) pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 6-15 to 7th Sqn Caucasus 6-17 to 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Maan 12-17 to 5th Sqn 10-18 Sgt to Lt (shown Lt) PoW 4-2-18 by Arabs under TEL (check me)? (1893- 1978) War Academy the Harbiye: Engeneer Lt 1914 to airforce 1915 Medina shown in Albatross C3 (AK53) with Yakup Sami on Caucasian front 3rd Army 1917 shown awarded Silver War Medal when Albatross C3 (AK53) with Yakup Sami (O) for his attack on Gernir 8-8-17 to Maan 1917 shown 3rd Sqn at Maan 8-17 reported Rumpler C3 (R1837) with Sgt Zeki brought down by TEL Arabs forces PoW 4-2-18 shown arrived at 5th Sqn with AEG C4 (7108) 10-18 post war Maltepe incident War of Independance later Maj Gen retired 1946 to Governer of Diyarbakir during 1950-52 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
H. Murat Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 to OC 8th Sqn 1-19 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina to 3 (P) 4 (O) War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Fehmi Efendi (Bursa) or (Maltepe) pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Medina 12-17 shown 4th Sqn (photo) 1918 to 14th Sqn possibly 3-18 shown 1st Sqn (1920) Sgt as civil to Lt PoW 30-9-18 Trained Yesilköy 1917 to Medina to Postal Ministry 1-19 shown photo with Sitki Tanman Lt Keylisk Lt Chakar and Behçet next to Albatros (202) at Deraa 1-1-18 reported captured around Damascus PoW 30-9-18 later War of Independance joined to the National Forces of Mustafa Kemal Pasha The source "Havacilik Tarihinde Türkler" (Turks in Aivation History) p.vol.1 p.290 says that he is from Bursa or Maltepe/Istanbul (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hasan Hulki Bey observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Hüseyin Hüsnü Efendi (Bilge) (Ank) Observer to pilot 1916 Airforce tos 2nd Sqn 5-16 to 13th Sqn 5-17 to 3rd Sqn 11-17 remain in Dera 12-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 5-15 Trained Yesilköy 1916 Mesopotamia 1916 to Medina to Dera 1917 later to Maj Chief instructer of Observation/navigation of Turkish air force 1932 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ibrahim Orhan Efendi Observer to Pilot 5-16 Airforce 1st Sqn 9-15 to cadet training in Ayastefanos Tayyare School 1-16 to (pilot) 3rd Sqn 6-16 to 8-18 remain in Medina 12-17 to 5th Sqn 6-18 Lt KIA 13-7-18 (1893 istanbul - KIA 13-9-18) from Galatasaray graduated in 1912 Trained Yesilköy 12-14 reported in Albatros C1 (AK1) with Lt Ali Riza (P) shot down a French Farman from Sqn MF 98T based at Bozcaada (Tenedos) island crashing between Intepe and Cape Helles 30-11-15 Trained Germany 5-16 to Medina 6-16 reported KIA 13-7-18 when shot down in AEG C4 (AEG15) with obsver Hüseyin Hüsnü by Greek AA Flak over Chios Island his plane crushed to sea near Sakiz Adasi Chios near Izmir (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ihya Efendi pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 Sgt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Ismail Zeki Efendi pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 Sgt to Lt PoW 4-2-18 by Arabs under TEL died 9-9-23 (1898 died 9-9-23) Trained 1916 Medina graduated from Yesilköy Pilot training school in 1916 shown Sgt at Maan 8-17 reported Rumpler C3 (R1837) with Lt Nihat reported shot down by Arab forces under TEL Feb 1918 later joined the national forces of Mustafa Kemal Pasha War of Independance (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Izzettin Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn to OC 3rd Sqn (from Fazil) 6-17 to 8-18 (also shown replaced Fazil 12-17) shown OC 1-18 Capt Trained Yesilköy 12-15 Medina replaced Capt Fazil 6-17 (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Lütfi Fikri Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 3-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1916 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Lutfullah Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 3-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
M. Kemal Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-16 Medina
Mehmet Cemal Bey Observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 6-16 Maj first director of the Flight Training School in Yesilköy 1912 to Medina
Mehmet Fazil Efendi pilot Airforce 1st Sqn 1915 to 2nd Sqn 9-15 to OC 12-15 sick 2-16 to 3rd Sqn 6-16 shown T/OC (from Cemil) 10-16 to 6-17 to Cheif of Air Operations at Yesilikoy Istanbul 12-17 to CO 9th Sqn 9-18 & 12th Sqn dates? to CO 2nd Sqn (1920) Lt to Capt WIA 25-10-18 KIA 28-1-23 accident born 1889 died 27-1-1923) 1326-Hv.41) trained at Bristol UK with Lt Saffet Lt Mehmed Ali Lt's Abdullah and Sabri prewar 1911 Balkan War 1913 made first flight in Nieuport Hydravion over islands of Tenedos and Limnos 9-14 to Mesopotamia 1915 at Medina replaced Capt Cemil OC 3 Sqn in September 1916 to first OC 9th Sqn at San Stefano based Sqn at Yesilköy shown in last combat in Albatros D5 (AKD29) when WIA 25-10-18 shot down British DH9 into the city Istanbul (1 victory) shown Postal Ministry 1-19 to Maj War of Independance CO 2nd Sqn (1920) to LtCol injuried in crash with Sgt Emin in DH9 27-1-23 died next day
Mehmet Saim Efendi pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 10-16 Lt KIA 27-11-16 or KIA 13-11-16 accident also shown KIA 2-10-16? (1890 - KIA 13-11-16) Medina reported KIA 27-11-16 or 13-11-16 when crashed in accident in new Albatros C3 (AK28) broke up and disintegrated in the air due to severe turbulence at Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Mehmet Ziya Efendi observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Osman Efendi Observer Airforce 1st Sqn 3-15 to 3rd Sqn 6-16 Lt Medina
Osman Nuri Efendi Observer Airforce 3rd Sqn 11-17 Lt Trained Yesilköy 1917 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Rifat Efendi pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 6-16 to 12-16 Lt Trained Germany 1916 Medina (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
Sakir Fevzi or Feyzi Efendi pilot Airforce 3rd Sqn 6-16 remain in Medina 12-17 Lt former Balloon officer to Medina with obsver Lt Kamil
Sakir Hasim Efendi Observer to pilot 1916 Airforce 3rd Sqn 6-16 shown 16th Sqn 3-18 to Postal Ministry 1-19 (1920) Lt Trained Yesilköy 12-14 Trained Germany 1916 to Medina to Caucasian front to Postal Ministry 1919 to War of Independance as Sakir Hasim
Salih Efendi observer Airforce Adjt 3rd Sqn 11-17 to T/OC 3rd Sqn (from Izzettin) 8-18 to 9-18 Lt bookkeeper

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Re: Ottoman Air units

Post by stevebecker » 17 Jan 2020 01:37

It should be mentioned that unlike allied Sqns, Ottoman Air companies were to be raised with four aircraft with companies of around 4 (Pilots) and 4 (Observers) and ground crew around 30 men.

There was a lack of trained Ottoman ground crew and many Germans found themselves serving throw out the Empire. Air crew Pilots and Observers were being trained and sent to units but the poor maintence of aircraft, ment there was few planes to use?

That and the poor flying skills led to many aircraft crashing or being damaged on landings, added to this was the poor country they placed there airfields which added to the lost of many aircraft.

It was not an easy war for the air units of the Ottoman Empire, and at times many Ottoman units had no planes operational to use against the large numbers of allied aircraft.

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