After 100 years the old Ottman/New Turkish empire Strikes back

Discussions on the final era of the Ottoman Empire, from the Young Turk Revolution of 1908 until the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923.
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After 100 years the old Ottman/New Turkish empire Strikes back

Post by Linkagain » 19 Nov 2021 15:53

The Old 700 year Ottman Empire which was supported by the British Empire for nearly 90 years and has been supported by the US since the end of World War II 70 years has been reveived.....occupy part of Cyprus; Lyba; Northern syria.... :milwink:
https://www.thehebrewcafe.com/forum/sho ... 17#pid5417
Probably lebonon...Iraq is next :milwink:

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Re: After 100 years the old Ottman/New Turkish empire Strikes back

Post by Tosun Saral » 23 Nov 2021 12:35

Yes you are right. We will strike back. We are striking. According to the article 16 of Lousanne Peace treaty between Turkey and allies we have the right to interfere the old ottoman territories such as Cyprus, Iraq, Syria, Aegean İslands if there is a change in the current state and situation eg breakdown of union, collapse of the state, infestation
1- A greek Nicos simpson rioted againts president Makarios and send him to exile and declared annexation of Cyrprus to Greece. So It was Turkey's right to interfere the situation to save the lives of turkish citizens of Cyprus and to restore the order.
2-In Syria USA wants to establish a kurdish state. some islamic terror organizatios disturbed the order in Syria. So Turkey entered Syria. Will remain there till the order is restored.
3- USA occupied Iraq because Saddam was not acting as their puppet. He was an arap nationalist. Since 20 yeras there is no order in Irag. The kurds of Norther Irag supported by USA wants to establish an independed state. the article 16 dont mermid Iraq divided into 2 parts. The kurd are now advancing towards southern Irag where turkic turcoman Türkmen tribes living Kerkük as the capital city of Iragi Turkmenistan. Turkey will strike. At the end of WW1 only 7 million poor, un educated turks fought againts a mighty empire. Now 85 million well educated and modern turk can strike. Middle Eest is our territory.

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Re: After 100 years the old Ottman/New Turkish empire Strikes back

Post by stevebecker » 24 Nov 2021 02:16

Mate,

How nice you believe this.

But you miss your own history.

Turkey or as is was before the Ottoman Empire, was a Christian state founded by a Roman Emporer
It was and has been a Christian state longer than a Islamic state.

Sure Turkey had these places under Ottoman rule, but they also held these states under Christian rule as part of the Bizentine Empire, longer again.

IS Turkey just re ajusting what was held under that Empire, not the Ottoman Empire or both?

Islam took these places from the Christians during a long period of slaughter and swallowed up the Kurds and others into there own empire, so they (Kurds and Others) now want there own lands back, Turkey, just like Britiain had to face in the Forthies or as the Russians did in the eighties as their empires broke up, that these subject peoples want the freedom from Turkey and like for so many years are still willing to fight for it. Purhaps you should think about giving it back to them, instead of dreaming of the former Empire.

Turkey under Kemal and many others was a better state, then under the present leader, who has stated the region problem again?
Why, because, as in some parts of the US, it sells

Of cause you have to be careful, because what happen to the last Great Empire in Central Turkey, like the Hittites, and or Mithridates, and the Ottomans, who likewise went after the countries around it and finished up with the end of them?
S.B

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Re: After 100 years the old Ottman/New Turkish empire Strikes back

Post by Tosun Saral » 25 Nov 2021 13:34

Dear Steve, according to your theory you must evacuate australia and new zeeland. canada and america :) we arrived in 1o71. ın 2071 it will be 1000 years. since 1000 years anatolia is our home. cheers. take care.

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Re: After 100 years the old Ottman/New Turkish empire Strikes back

Post by stevebecker » 25 Nov 2021 21:31

Tosun,
My Freind I was thinking you (Turkey) have been fighting these peoples for hundreds of years, Eastern Turkey has been under attack by a number of groups that want there our countries like the Armenians have.
The kurds and others should and can have there own lands, which was taken from them hundreds of years ago by different Empires, but there still there.
Instead of killing each other talk and grant them their own country?
Of cause I known why you don't, because Turkey is afraid that it would because a base for more attacks.
Much like Pakistan was for those in Afganistan.
We are never going to solve the problems that run so deep here.
So stay safe and may god protect you.
S.B

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