Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 07 Jul 2017 01:16

Mates,

Do you have any details on this German officer? Maj Ludlof or Ludloff A/CofS Yildrim Army Group

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 07 Jul 2017 01:44

Mates,

I also notice this on Ludwig Wolff, (1886-1950) from Capt 171st Infantry Regt, later transfered to Luftwaffe 1934 WWII Gen Air comd Maj CofS 8th Army 9-17 to 4-18 . I have that he was Ops officer 8th Army not Chief of Staff?

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 07 Jul 2017 02:52

Mates,

Just to add
Pflugradt Benno.
Does any one know if he is Benno Wilhlem Waldemar Pflugradt, Pour le Mérite 1918, born 24 July 1877 at Greifswald in Pomerania, died 10 Nov 1940. Son of Generalmajor z.D. Emil Pflugradt and Hildegard Pflugradt (von Lilienthal).
Educated in his parents' house and at the Gymnasium Greifswald and Marburg. Attended the Cadet Schools at Oranienstein and Groß-Lichterfelde. As an Abiturient he graduated from Groß-Lichterfelde as a Portepee-Fähnrich on 14 February 1895 and was commissioned into I.R. 25 as a Sekonde-Lieutenant on the 27 January 1896 with seniority backdated to his original graduation date (14.2.95)

4 Jun - 1 Jul 99: Attached to Pionier-Bataillon 14
1 Oct 99 - 31 May 03: Adjutant III./I.R. 25
1 Jun 03 - 31 Oct 07: Regimental Adjutant I.R. 25
22 Apr - 26 May 08: Attached to Infantry School of Musketry
16 Jun 10: Adjutant of the 30. Infanterie-Brigade
27 Jan 13: Assigned to I.R. 29 as a company commander

Commanded I.R. 116 from 3 Nov 18 - 22 Jan 19
Commanded Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 10 from 1 Mar 1919 to dissolution
Commanded 17. Infanterie-Regiment from 1 Feb 27 -28 Feb 28

No mention of service in the Ottoman Army?

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 09 Jul 2017 06:37

Tosun,

Do you have any details on this German and k.u.k. officer? Shown as:
Georg Prinz von Bayern,
(1880-1943) member of the Bavarian Royal House of Wittelsbach from k.u.k. (Mährisches) Dragonerregiment "Kaiser" Nr. 11 [11th "Moravia" Austro-Hungarian Dragoons k.u.k.] 1914-15 to Ottoman Army dates?
The closest I can find was he was on staff to von Falkenhayn with the Yildirim Army. Dates for his Ottoman service I am unsure of?
Do you have any thing on him?

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by Tosun Saral » 10 Jul 2017 09:22

Georg Prinz von Bayern never heard about him in Turkish Army. He was brother in law of Franz Joszef and uncle of Karl.

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 11 Jul 2017 01:03

Tosun,

Yes I found his name on the list by Wikipedia under WWI;

During World War I, Georg fought both on the Western Front (including the First Battle of Arras and the First Battle of Ypres) and on the Eastern Front. He started the war as commander of the Bavarian mechanized troops and eventually served under General Erich von Falkenhayn in Palestine. He was awarded both the I and II Class of the Iron Cross and on December 14, 1917 reached the rank of Colonel (German: Oberst).
It also mentions:
Georg entered the Bavarian army as a Leutnant (English: Second Lieutenant) a day before his 17th birthday on April 1, 1897; he was assigned to Infanterie-Leib-Regiment. On February 8, 1903, he was promoted to the rank of Oberleutnant (English: First Lieutenant ) and then reassigned to the 1. Kgl. Bayer. schweres Reiter-Regiment "Prinz Karl von Bayern" [1st Royal Bavarian Heavy Cavalry “Prince Charles of Bavaria”]. Two years later, on October 27, 1905 he was promoted to Rittmeister and on October 26, 1906 to Major. From August 17, 1908, he was also a Rittmeister and later Major in the k.u.k. (Mährisches) Dragonerregiment "Kaiser" Nr. 11 [11th "Moravia" Austro-Hungarian Dragoons].[3] While in the army, he became a champion boxer.

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by Tosun Saral » 11 Jul 2017 14:42

There not a single news about his service in Turkey in all austrian newspapers. He was promoted to Kuk Colonel by Kaiser.

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 14 Oct 2017 02:57

Mates,

Do you have any details on these German officers and what units they commanded?

Hechtern Von Maj CO 701st Arty Bn
Staubwasser Maj 701st Bn

Kemper Lt 701st MT Co

Dungern Von Capt Yildirim ordusu 701. Piyade birlik komutani
Genee Capt 701 Piyade tabur komutani sonra sahra inzibat dairesi baskani
Mohr Lt Yildirim ordusu 701. Piyade birlik komutani

The first three show known German sub units, while the last three are in Turkish and I am unsure what units they mean?

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by Glenn2438 » 14 Oct 2017 19:21

Steve,

Oskar Staubwasser was a Bavarian infantry officer. At mobilisation he was a company commander in the 10. Infanterie-Regiment. According to his military service summary, he was the battalion commander of the I Mixed battalion of the Asien-Korps followed by service on the staff of the IV Ottoman Army from 25 January 1918 to 1 April 1918 when he assumed command of the Ottoman "Ajas" Detachment.

I think Hechtern should read Hans Rechtern, in 1914 an Hauptmann in the 2. Unter-Elsässisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 67.

Rittmeister d.R. a.D. Hermann Freiherr von Dungern

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 15 Oct 2017 01:46

Glenn,

Thank you amazing what you have here.

Can you help with some of these German officers

Koop Lt 702nd MT Co

Merts Maj OC 702nd Bn
Platz Paul Maj CO 702nd Bn

Droese Capt Yildirim ordusu 702. Piyade bölügü komutani
Gürtner Franz Capt Yildirim ordusu 702. Piyade bölügü komutani savas sonrasi Bayern Adalet Bakani
Lutz Lt Yildirim ordusunda 702. Birlik Topçu (Artillery) subay
Reck Capt Yildirim ordusu 702. Piyade birlik komutani

Again the German units are known but the four officers in Turkish I can't understand what units they were in?

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by Tosun Saral » 15 Oct 2017 11:22

Piyade bölügü komutanı: C of Infantry Company

Piyade bölügü komutani savas sonrasi Bayern Adalet Bakani : C of Infantry Company. After war Minister of Justice of Federal state of Bayern.

702. Birlik Topçu (Artillery) subay : Artillery officer of 702th company

702. Piyade birlik komutani : Commander of 702th Infantry unit.

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 16 Oct 2017 00:50

Tosun,

Many thanks again mate.

That makes these officers company commanders in these Bn's

want about this

Piyade tabur komutani sonra sahra inzibat dairesi baskani

Commander Regt Company ------------ ------ ------ ------?

and these

Böhm Lt Yildirim 703. Piyade taburu avci birligi komutani

Gründing Lt Filistin'de Dogu Ürdün'de 703. Taburda

Glenn

as to Mohr I show an officer by that name as Max Mohr he maybe that Company officer in 701Bn?

Great

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 10 Nov 2017 02:14

Mates,

Do you have the details on these two commanders of Jasta 305 (FA 305) or any other airman with FA 305?

Steiner Capt Pilot Airforce OC Jasta 305

Elias Capt Dr Pilot Airforce Jasta 302 (1917) to OC Jasta 305 (1918) (replaced Steiner)

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by Tosun Saral » 10 Nov 2017 15:19

P
Sorry I missed tos ee the post
Piyade tabur komutani sonra sahra inzibat dairesi baskani
C of Inf Battalion then director of Field Military Police (MP) Section.



and these

Böhm Lt Yildirim 703. Piyade taburu avci birligi komutani
Lt Böhm Commander of Jäger troop of 703.Inf. Battalion of Yildirim Army Group

Gründing Lt Filistin'de Dogu Ürdün'de 703. Taburda
Lt. Gründing at the order of 703. Battalion at East Jordan Palestine

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Re: Full German Officers Name in Ottoman Army..

Post by stevebecker » 11 Nov 2017 01:23

Tosun,

Thank you

These are members of the 703rd Bn of the Pasha 1 group

Grassmann Capt OC 703rd Bn KIA 14-7-18

Sternberg Capt 703rd Bn 7-18 to OC (possibly replaced Grassman)

Gründing Lt 703rd Bn - Filistin'de Dogu Ürdün'de 703. Taburda (at East Jordan Palestine) (possibly a co commander)
Böhm Lt 703rd Bn - Yildirim 703. Piyade taburu avci birligi komutani (Commander of Jäger troop of 703rd Inf Battalion)

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