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Post by Tosun Saral » 15 Feb 2007 14:12

German officers in Turkish Army: Lt. Ihlefeldt
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Post by Tosun Saral » 15 Feb 2007 14:15

Capt. Ehrenstein
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Post by Tosun Saral » 15 Feb 2007 14:23

Hans Guhr with his staff at Eastern Front and his dog "Sadik" Treu/Loyal"
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Post by Peter H » 28 Apr 2007 03:07

Germans who held command slots in the Ottoman Army.

From: http://boards.historychannel.com/thread ... =700056027


Army group and army commanders

Army group "Jildirim":
Erich von Falkenhayn
Otto Liman von Sanders

3rd army:
Otto Liman von Sanders
Freiherr von der Goltz

5th army:
Otto Liman von Sanders

6th army:
Freiherr von der Goltz

8th army:
Freiherr Kress von Kressenstein

Chief of staff of Army groups or Armies

Wilhelm von Dommes: Jildirim
Alexander von Falkenhausen: 7th army
Otto von Feldmann: 1st army
Werner von Falkenberg: 4th army
Gerold von Gleich: 6th army
Felix Guse: 3rd army
Adolf Herrgott: 4th army
Hans-Wilhelm Kretschmar: 6th army
Moldzio: 4th army
Franz von Papen: 4th army
Ernst Paraquin: 6th army
Wilhelm Solger: 7th army
Erwin von Strube: 3rd army
Kress von Kressenstein: 4th army

Corps commanders

Ulrich Back
Hans Kannengiesser
Kress von Kressenstein
August Nicolai
Bruno Trommer

Division commanders

Erich Böhme
Hans von Kiesling
Eggert
Hans Guhr
Albert Heuck
Hunger
Rabe
Ludwig Schraubenbach
Kurt Schwabe
von Sodenstern
Bruno Trommer
Erich Weber
Wilhelm Willmer

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Post by Peter H » 28 Apr 2007 03:17

Some discussions here as well:

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Colonel Nikolai--3rd Division,I Corps

Colonel Karl Trommer--10th Division,XIV Corps

Colonel Hans Kannengiesser--9th Division,XVI Corps

Lieutenant Colonel Hans Guhr--1st Division,29th Division

Colonel Wilmer--5th Division,24th Division

Colonel Havik--13th Division,12th Division

Lieutenant Colonel von Schraudenbach--14th Division

Colonel Böhme--24th Division

Major Hunger--34th Division

Lieutenant Colonel Tiller--46th Division

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Post by Tosun Saral » 28 Apr 2007 11:01

Görgülü "On Yıllık Harbin Kadrosu" (Personal of 10 Years long war)

During naval fight at Dardanelles:
Lt. Col. Merten: delegate of comander in chief
Lt. Col. Wasillo: commander of Hamidiye Fortification
Lt. Col. Werle: Commander of heavy artillary at Erenköy on Anatolian part.

at Seddülbahir:
von Sanders

During May 1/2-3/4 assaults:
Col. von Zodernstern commander of region south
Maj. Mühlmann: chief of staff
Col. Kennengiesser: advisor

2nd Kirte Battle and 9-24 May fights and 3rd Kirte:
Maj. Gen. Weber Pasha commander of region south
Lt. col.Thauvenay:c.o.s.

1st Kerevizdere, Zigindere (Jun.28-July 3) battle:
Weber pasha

July 5th Zigindere Turkish assault:
Weber Pasha
Maj. Eggert: c.o.s of 1st AC
Col. Nicolai: commander 3rd Div.
Lt. Col.Binholt: Artillary of right wing

2nd Kerevizdere battleJuly 12/13
Trommer Pasha: commander 14th AC
Lr. col. Albrecht:c.o.s 5th AC
Col. Hovic: commander 13th Div.

Conkbayırı and (Aug.6-10)1st Anafartalar (Aug. 9th) battle
col. kennengiesser: commander 9th Div.
Lt. co. Pötrih : " " " "
Lt. Col. Wilmer: Region commander Anafartalar
Lt. Col. Hunker: commander 28th Reg.

2nd Anafartalar (Aust 21)
lt.col.wilmer:commander 5th Div.

Anafartalar Group (
col. nicolai: commander 2nd AC
col. kennengiesser:commander 16th AC
Wilmer: 5th Div
Maj. Hunker: 28th Reg.
Maj. Lierau: Heavy Artillary gr. comander

Ap.25-27 1915 Kumkale Battles.
weber pasha: 15t AC
Lt. col. Tuweney: c.o.s
col. Nicolai:3rd Div
lt.col. Binholt: 34rd Artillary Reg.

East Front:
Lt.col. Guze: c.o.s.3rd Army
Posselt Pasha: Commander of Erzincan Fortification
Lt. Col. Stange: Artillary commander of fortification Erzincan

At Sarikamis:
Bronzart Pasha: 3rd Army commander
lt.col. guze: c.o.s.
lt. col.Feldmann: chieef operations officer
Maj. Lange: c.o.s. 10th AC
Maj. von Berg: commander 30th Arytillary Reg
Lt.col. Stange: 8th Reg. (Stange Detachment)
Maj.Fischer
Maj. Kirsten
Maj. Staseiski

Commander of Fortification Erzurum:
Posselt Pasha

to be continued

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Post by Jochen Kruesmann » 28 Apr 2007 16:41

Dear Sir,

In Germany there are living 9 millions people of Turkish origin and when I realise the conditions in the city (especially concerning the women) after 25 years of living in our country they are not able (or willing) to speake one German sentence properly. So your arguing about language in this context is really stupid. As I can see you are living in USA. Please ask a normal US-man how many foreign languages he is able to read or write. As a well educated man you don`t have to blame other people that they can`t read Turkish language!!!! So I realise that you have very good informations and please be so kind to translate them into English (!), so that everyone in the forum benefits from it. I have a lots of friends in Istanbul who share my hobby about Ottoman-Turkish Navy, but I never heard such a nonense from them.

About Mahsusa-Teskilat I only can state that they were no "special army force" , but the organization of the Ottoman state which fought and killed the Armenian citizens in your country. I really know that this is not reckognized by official Turkish sources, but it is the true. Ottoman Army was out of scope , but this organization was officially supported by the Government.

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Post by Tosun Saral » 28 Apr 2007 20:27

9 million Turks in Germany?
Why need to learn German language?

Teskilat-ı Mahsusa had done a good job!.

Teskilat-ı Mahsusa hat gut gemacht Junge!

There is a Turkish saying " Hey Cooking pot your buttom is darker and smoky then mine."

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Post by Jochen Kruesmann » 29 Apr 2007 15:10

Tosun Saral wrote:9 million Turks in Germany?
Why need to learn German language?

Teskilat-ı Mahsusa had done a good job!.

Teskilat-ı Mahsusa hat gut gemacht Junge!

There is a Turkish saying " Hey Cooking pot your buttom is darker and smoky then mine."



Dear Mr. Saral,

I don`t know why you react in this behaviour to my message to Chavusch. But concerning YAVUZ SULTAN SELIM please find the following explanation to you theory:

1. She didn`t FLED, but ESCAPED in a very good manor from all the Allied forces in the Mediterranean. She was then under German flag. So no need need for a Turk to feel sorry about that.

2. YAVUZ was never at the Dardanelles campaign in 1915, but was damaged during the operations in 1918.

3. What shall a single vessel do during the Sevastopol raid against the whole Imperial Russian Navy. Sink all of them !?

4. The reason why the Ottoman Empire entered the war was not GOEBEN, but the secret arrangements between Enver Pasa with the German Government. This is proofed by a lots of international sources.

Why should 9 millions Turks in Germany should learn German ? It is very simple: They want to live hear and so you have to learn language of the country. They want to work and benefit and so this is only normal. Ask Danish people and others about that ! So in a forum of that one should write in a common Language. Although my English is worse I always try. Why is it not possible for this Chavusch man, although he lives in USA ?

About Teskilat-ı Mahsusa:

First of all don`t call me „Junge“. You don`t know who I am and how old I am ! On the other hand they were simply governmental used murders! So you say “well done” to a SS-man !? I really know that the Turkish community except some very rare and educated individuals are still have a lot of problems with those genocides carried out in 1914-1915. About your very strange Turkish saying I have to state that I didn`t get exactly the meaning of those words, but in case that there is a connection with the damned 3 rd Reich I can state that we as Germans made our leasons, but I think a lots of Turks not!

Regards,
Jochen

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Post by Tosun Saral » 29 Apr 2007 18:33

Because of your absurd sentence:
"About Mahsusa-Teskilat I only can state that they were no "special army force" , but the organization of the Ottoman state which fought and killed the Armenian citizens in your country. I really know that this is not reckognized by official Turkish sources, but it is the true. Ottoman Army was out of scope , but this organization was officially supported by the Government".

So you say “well done” to a SS-man !?
No I dont say. SS-man murdered innocent kids, girls, young women, old men. Teskilat-ı Mahsusa were never been murders.

My strange sentance " Hey Cooking pot your buttom is darker and smoky then mine" means that your history is more blody and dark then ours.

We as Germans made our leasons, but I think a lots of Turks not!

No lesson ever can clean your hands. We, Turks, need not to take a lesson because we are no murderers.

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Post by Peter H » 30 Apr 2007 08:26

An off topic post by someone else has been deleted.

Gentlemen,
Let's keep on topic and remain civil.Discussions on the Armenians is also not allowed here as per our Section guidelines.

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Post by Peter H » 09 May 2007 11:57

Oberst Gustav von Oppen.

Commanded the Asienkorps 1918.Died of disease,31st October 1918(?).Buried at the German Cemetery,Damascus.

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Post by Peter H » 10 May 2007 11:11

Leutnant Joachim von Ribbentrop served in a adminstrative position in Constantinople in 1918.

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Post by Peter H » 13 May 2007 02:58

Kress von Kressenstein.Photo supplied by JPK.
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Post by Peter H » 16 Jun 2007 02:06

Carl Mühlmann

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